StevenB Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 Recently purchased a '63 (titled '64) Avanti R4763. The front "Avanti" name has a very slight upwards arc to it, not straight across, like the others I've seen. What's up with that? Thanks!
mfg Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 1 hour ago, StevenB said: Recently purchased a '63 (titled '64) Avanti R4763. The front "Avanti" name has a very slight upwards arc to it, not straight across, like the others I've seen. What's up with that? Thanks! Bodywork was probably performed on the front panel… and the body man ‘goofed’ when drilling the nameplate holes
Gunslinger Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 Yes…it looks like the mounting holes are off enough to force a bend in the name plate.
regnalbob Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 You are missing a lens on the parking light. The bulb should not be visible. There should be a clear bulb, amber inner lens and clear outer lens. The housing should look like this.
StevenB Posted February 8 Author Report Posted February 8 So, there's enough flexibility that a replacement will it? If I ever need one, that is.
StevenB Posted February 8 Author Report Posted February 8 Just now, StevenB said: So, there's enough flexibility that a replacement will it? If I ever need one, that is. Fit.
Dwight FitzSimons Posted February 8 Report Posted February 8 It could be that the bodyman drilled the holes too close together and had to bend the nameplate to fit the holes. Bad bodyman! --Dwight
Hogtrough Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 On 2/7/2025 at 9:39 PM, Dwight FitzSimons said: It could be that the bodyman drilled the holes too close together and had to bend the nameplate to fit the holes. Bad bodyman! --Dwight I like to put a little ink on the two mounting posts and touch it to the area so it tells me exactly where to drill
aardvark Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 to me, the issue is not really noticeable.....or a ''non-issue''.
mfg Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 8 hours ago, aardvark said: to me, the issue is not really noticeable.....or a ''non-issue''. You might not say that if you just ponied up $10,000+ for professional body & paint work on a show car Avanti!!
aardvark Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 Was that a show car? The reality is just because the emblem is a little tweaked, to the general public and even purists, it's really very minor and not noticeable unless pointed out as flawed..
mfg Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 2 hours ago, aardvark said: Was that a show car? The reality is just because the emblem is a little tweaked, to the general public and even purists, it's really very minor and not noticeable unless pointed out as flawed.. No.. I completely disagree… if someone paid big dollars for a restoration, or even for a minor collision job on the nose panel of our favorite car, that “minor flaw” would drive a proud owner NUTS!
aardvark Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 (edited) A matter of opinion. MFG. An item like that is easily correctible and yet its so minor I see it as a senseless. One poster pointed out the turn signal lense was missing. That by level of 1 to 10 is a ''5'' and does need addressed. But the reason to address it s to save the chrome from corrosion that is under the lense... not necessarily a visual issue. Years ago we spent about a year restoring a ''66'' Mustang Fastback. We went to a Ford Car Show. The Judges took off 10 points out 100 for 2 things..Dust in the glovebox and the fender bolts were painted the wrong color.... Point being i think ''Judging'' is somewhat too critical... "As is this item.'' Edited February 11 by aardvark
mfg Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 (edited) 8 hours ago, aardvark said: A matter of opinion. MFG. An item like that is easily correctible and yet its so minor I see it as a senseless. One poster pointed out the turn signal lense was missing. That by level of 1 to 10 is a ''5'' and does need addressed. But the reason to address it s to save the chrome from corrosion that is under the lense... not necessarily a visual issue. Years ago we spent about a year restoring a ''66'' Mustang Fastback. We went to a Ford Car Show. The Judges took off 10 points out 100 for 2 things..Dust in the glovebox and the fender bolts were painted the wrong color.... Point being i think ''Judging'' is somewhat too critical... "As is this item.'' “ Easily correctable?”… I don’t think so!… The Avanti nose panel script is very ‘thin’ and has no wiggle room if the holes are not drilled in correct location…An owner has to ignore the mistake (as you would apparently do) or rework the nose panel for a redo….. I believe a mistake like that would not be tolerated by Avanti owners who care about the appearance of their cars… We’re not speaking of “ dust in the glovebox” here! However, to each his own I guess!! Be well….Ed Edited February 11 by mfg Spelling
Footer Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 90% of people don’t even know what an Avanti is, let alone notice a slight curve in the emblem. Redrilling the emblem holes might require a spot paint on the nose which, if not done right, would be more noticeable. And an expensive venture. Most cars have bigger issues to worry about. Mike
mfg Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 2 minutes ago, Footer said: 90% of people don’t even know what an Avanti is, let alone notice a slight curve in the emblem. Redrilling the emblem holes might require a spot paint on the nose which, if not done right, would be more noticeable. And an expensive venture. Most cars have bigger issues to worry about. Mike Tell that to the judges at a national AOAI event (especially after you have spent $$$$ on a restoration of your Avanti)….COME ON MAN!!!!
aardvark Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 Already said my opinion on Judges. They see a dual master under the hood, would they lose their minds or over a hollowed out 3EE Battery? To me... it's Nit Picking.
Mark63Avanti Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 Dual master cylinders are an acceptable safety upgrade. I have paid for front end work on my Avanti. The person who performed the work has a fondness for Studebaker's and it shows in his work. I like the saying "It's not just good, it's good enough" but I reserve that for my own projects around the house, not for work I'm paying for. MFG gets it right.
aardvark Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 A good paint and Body Person would have no problem blending and re-frilling , then setting that emblem. It's a matter of filling the old hole and airbrushing with the same paint mix.. a little buff and polish. It's not rocket science.. I used to do Body/Paint.. It's a 2 hour fix...not including drying time. ............. Mark 63... totally agree, but a Purist would disagree.
Footer Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 I guess since Steven apparently bought the car with the emblem issue, he has to weigh whether he wants to pay to get it made right or live with it. If he is going to show it and have it judged then it’s a trip to the body shop. Mike
wdaly Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 On 2/11/2025 at 8:55 AM, mfg said: Tell that to the judges at a national AOAI event (especially after you have spent $$$$ on a restoration of your Avanti)….COME ON MAN!!!! Hmmm. Many years ago at an AOAI national meet in St. Louis I was asked if I would sign-up for "The Judgement" as there were only four cars in my category and apparently they had 4 trophies - I hadn't prepared the car for scrutiny - guess who won 4th Place? I was so 'proud'! But, that's just me..........😀
mfg Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 1 hour ago, wdaly said: Hmmm. Many years ago at an AOAI national meet in St. Louis I was asked if I would sign-up for "The Judgement" as there were only four cars in my category and apparently they had 4 trophies - I hadn't prepared the car for scrutiny - guess who won 4th Place? I was so 'proud'! But, that's just me..........😀 Congrats wdaly!…. A win is a win… and it’s always nice to have your Avanti ‘recognized’!
Geoff Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 (edited) Yeah, the two large American icons (Mustang & Corvette) get really wacky with their judging. On the Corvette forums, guys have altered the acronym NCRS which normally means National Corvette Restorers Society to Non-Correctly Restored Stingray, which was where I was going with my '69; most definitely not stock. The poster's issue with incorrectly drilled holes in the fascia is an easy fix. I enjoyed the fiberglass repair tutorial Mike & Mike (Avanti Restoration & Services) showcased at the 2012 SDC Int'l meet. Maybe they need to put on another one soon? Learning from them made repairing my crash of 1025 easier. We even removed one example of the old method to repair fiberglass. Bill Alderman (1st owner after the Granatellis) must've had a fender bender, as there was a thin galvanized steel plate backing inside the right front fender (at the vertex IIRC) and rivet locations were visible through the paint. I've gained confidence to take on much of my current project DIY status, between what I learned in South Bend, and via the YouTube channel 'Paint Society' who has a closing tag line, "Don't overthink it, it's just paint." I take that to mean, "It's not something which can't be easily worked or corrected." Edited February 12 by Geoff Edited for clarity
mfg Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 13 minutes ago, Geoff said: Yeah, the two large American icons (Mustang & Corvette) get really wacky with their judging. On the Corvette forums, guys have altered the acronym NCRS which normally means National Corvette Restorers Society to Non-Correctly Restored Stingray, which was where I was going with my '69; most definitely not stock. The poster's issue with incorrectly drilled holes in the fascia is an easy fix. I enjoyed the fiberglass repair tutorial Mike & Mike (Avanti Restoration & Services) showcased at the 2012 SDC Int'l meet. Maybe they need to put on another one soon? Learning from them made repairing my crash of 1025 easier. We even removed one example of the old method to repair fiberglass. Bill Alderman (1st owner after the Granatellis) must've had a fender bender, as there was a thin galvanized steel plate backing inside the right front fender (at the vertex IIRC) and rivet locations were visible through the paint. I've gained confidence to take on much of my current project DIY status, between what I learned in South Bend, and via the YouTube channel 'Paint Society' who has a closing tag line, "Don't overthink it, it's just paint." I take that to mean, "It's not something which can't be easily worked or corrected." But, we need to remember that “ it’s just paint” can cost up to $800 per gallon for the good stuff, (plus catalyst & reducer. So it pays to get it right the first time in my book!
aardvark Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 Again. a 2 hour fix. People are getting anal about an emblem placement so I've said enough.
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