Rick Allen Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 Saw this after the auction ended (not that I would buy It), does the story that goes with it sound plausible? Studebaker Avanti NOS R1/R2 Crate Engine and 4SPD Transmission | eBay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 I lean towards 'Good Used! !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regnalbob Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 Could be this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark63Avanti Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 The engine had a BIN of $14,500. I know the fellow selling it and he is a top-notch guy. What you were were looking at was a genuine Studebaker crate engine straight from the factory, or at least what was left of Studebaker, when it was sold. I wish I could buy it and store just as it is, a crated unused engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark63Avanti Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Allen Posted June 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 hour ago, regnalbob said: Could be this one. Yea, could be, surprising to me that Studebaker would put the lower compression heads on the non-supercharged Avanti engines unless they were just getting rid of inventory before they shut down the South Bend factory or was that an engine version that could be ordered on the Lark/Hawk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regnalbob Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Rick Allen said: Yea, could be, surprising to me that Studebaker would put the lower compression heads on the non-supercharged Avanti engines unless they were just getting rid of inventory before they shut down the South Bend factory or was that an engine version that could be ordered on the Lark/Hawk? The low compression heads were an option on the R1 for 1964. According to the parts catalog the included 4 speed was only used with a 3.07 axle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) Are you sure about the 3.07 axle? IIRC, standard R/A was 3.73 for 63 and 3.54 for 64 for cars with 4spd. Edited June 1, 2023 by 64studeavanti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regnalbob Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 41 minutes ago, 64studeavanti said: Are you sure about the 3.07 axle? IIRC, standard R/A was 3.73 for 63 and 3.54 for 64 for cars with 4spd. 3.07, 4.09 & 4.55 axle ratios were Special Order for 1964. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 If it hasn’t been turned over since 1963 how does anyone know it’s not locked up? The seller is surely correct about a buyer needing to disassemble and essentially do a complete rebuild…all the way through. All this needs to be taken into account by any potential buyer. This NOS engine has the potential to be as or more expensive to put into operation than a well used engine requiring a rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 Don't disagree with special order ratios. Do disagree with statement that 4spd was only used with 3.07 ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regnalbob Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, 64studeavanti said: Don't disagree with special order ratios. Do disagree with statement that 4spd was only used with 3.07 ratio. NOS Studebaker T10, 4 speed transmission (1558219). According to the parts catalog the 4 speed with that part number is only used for the 3.07 axle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 They have a separate part number for 4.55 ratio as well. Must be the speedometer drive on the mainshaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lschuc Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/1/2023 at 2:17 PM, Mark63Avanti said: The engine had a BIN of $14,500. I know the fellow selling it and he is a top-notch guy. What you were were looking at was a genuine Studebaker crate engine straight from the factory, or at least what was left of Studebaker, when it was sold. I wish I could buy it and store just as it is, a crated unused engine. Mark, Could this engine and transmission had been saved by Dick Vaux? When Studebaker shut down at the end of 1963, he worked at the regional parts warehouse in New Hampshire (I believe) and was told to take an inventory of all parts, send the part numbers to headquarters in South Bend, and then have all parts hauled to a landfill. He told me that he worked long nights and weekends to find an Avanti part and hauled them to his home so he could have them for his own Avantis. After his death in 2019, the family sold most everything, so maybe this went to WCD Garage where it is stored now, or to someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/1/2023 at 10:39 PM, 64studeavanti said: They have a separate part number for 4.55 ratio as well. Must be the speedometer drive on the mainshaft. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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