mfg Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 45 minutes ago, regnalbob said: If you are going to quote me make sure you post all of it. I made an effort to find out if it was or wasn't. Thats more than you are capable of doing!😁 Good old Bob always feels the need to get the last word in...... GO GET 'EM BOBBY!!! 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 (edited) R4130 was a prototype mule for the '64 upgrades and some of them were different than the final versions used in production. It was eventually sold to Sherwood Egbert with some more modifications of the personal kind for him. But the car wasn't built for Egbert in the strict sense. Edited March 9 by Gunslinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 (edited) 15 minutes ago, mfg said: Good old Bob always feels the need to get the last word in...... GO GET 'EM BOBBY!!! 😆 I can sure tell you two are old buds from way back. 😂 Edited March 9 by Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Gunslinger said: R4130 was a prototype mule for the '64 upgrades and some of them were different than the final versions used in production. It was eventually sold to Sherwood Egbert with some more modifications of the personal kind for him. But the car wasn't built for Egbert in the street sense. I think it was built for him. I have some photos of the car at Paxton with less than 1000 miles on it. The car at that time was wearing Egbert’s personalized license plate, Halibrands, R3, 8 k tach, exhaust gas analyzer, chrome all over the engine compartment etc. I guess those photos could have been after the plant closed but the odometer was well under 1000 miles which makes me think it was prior to closing. Edited March 9 by Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regnalbob Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 13 minutes ago, Nelson said: I can sure tell you two are old buds from way back. 😂 Yes, this is all he has since he was banned from the SDC Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 (edited) 18 minutes ago, regnalbob said: Yes, this is all he has since he was banned from the SDC Forum. That's hitting below the belt my friend...and, to set the record straight, I was banned on the SDC Forum the day after I told tbe administrator that I was quitting! He became angry when I pressed him to reveal exactly what SDC was paying him....which as a (then) dues paying member, I felt I, and others, had a right to know..... And as far as Bob Langer goes, I don't know the man personally, and I'm very thankful that I don't! 🥺 Edited March 9 by mfg Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Too bad. Both you guys seem knowledgeable about Studes and Avantis. A lot in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 1 minute ago, Nelson said: Too bad. Both you guys seem knowledgeable about Studes and Avantis. A lot in common. I agree....it really is too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lschuc Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 6 hours ago, regnalbob said: Yes, this is all he has since he was banned from the SDC Forum. Ok all, play nice.... 🥺 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1963r2 Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 Love the subject gentleman. Could I pose some questions but understand l'm no way knowledgeable as those before me who have posted and I'm not sure of timelines and locations etc. These are just some thoughts that crossed my mind. Could the car have been sent to the Granatelli's for the purpose of fitting another (brand x) engine? "Off the record" We know that ultimately studes had chev engines? Was the Avanti to continue? We know they were made in Canada right😊. Where was the larger capacity stude engine development at this stage ? Has anyone checked the Lamberti papers (not sure if my spelling is right)? Thanks and I will duck for cover now. Pb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted March 29 Author Report Share Posted March 29 Unless someone who was there comes forward with definite knowledge of exactly what condition this Avanti was in when it arrived at Paxton Products, I'd say that we will never really know for sure! However, I would bet a cup of coffee that Joe Granatelli paid very little money for it...if anything! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffC312 Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 4 hours ago, 1963r2 said: Where was the larger capacity stude engine development at this stage ? This part is of interest to me, and is a big reason why I plan to use LS2* in my build; as a small way to pay homage to Studebaker history. The 3.875" and 4" bore Studebaker blocks had to indicate the foundry was mostly ready to transition to full production mode in the summer of 1963, as a few had been cast [and hidden in an office] when Studebaker closed. The blocks were supposed to be scrapped but somebody helped them eschew demise. Both blocks would have used Studebaker's 3.625" stroke crank for 342 and 364 cubes respectively. [LS was made as a global engine (so metric) but LS2 at 4" (101.6mm) of bore and 3.622" (92mm) of stroke, I'll take that as within machined tolerances of the 'what would have been' Studebaker 364 displacement.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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