regnalbob Posted yesterday at 02:33 AM Report Posted yesterday at 02:33 AM 49 minutes ago, mfg said: I don’t know what brand of salt and pepper you use on your food Bob, but I certainly hope that your ‘salt’ is not red, or orange, or turquoise!!!!!!! However, if you post a Studebaker document that specifically states that ALL tu-tone Avanti carpeting will be considered or referred to as ‘salt & pepper’, I will defer! mfg AOAI Forum Members 13.3k Gender:Male Location:Massachusetts My Avanti:1963,63R1379 Author Posted June 2, 2014 Four it is on the 'Salt & Pepper'! g AOAI Forum Members 13.3k Gender:Male Location:Massachusetts My Avanti:1963,63R1379 Posted June 2, 2014 Trivia!.....In 1963, Studebaker offered three different 'salt & pepper' color combos for the Avanti's carpeting....True?
mfg Posted yesterday at 02:45 AM Report Posted yesterday at 02:45 AM 12 minutes ago, regnalbob said: mfg AOAI Forum Members 13.3k Gender:Male Location:Massachusetts My Avanti:1963,63R1379 Author Posted June 2, 2014 Four it is on the 'Salt & Pepper'! g AOAI Forum Members 13.3k Gender:Male Location:Massachusetts My Avanti:1963,63R1379 Posted June 2, 2014 Trivia!.....In 1963, Studebaker offered three different 'salt & pepper' color combos for the Avanti's carpeting....True?
mfg Posted yesterday at 02:47 AM Report Posted yesterday at 02:47 AM (edited) EXACTLY Regnalbob!…..Answer…..FALSE… Studebaker offered FOUR ‘speckled’ carpet colors for ‘ 63 Avantis…. However, only ONE was ‘salt & pepper! Hence… answer FALSE! Thanks…Regnalbob ——- gender….Male location….Pennsylvania Avantis owned….’63…..63R2809 ‘63…. 63R4137 AOAI Forum member Edited yesterday at 03:52 AM by mfg Added thanks to Bob… and forum info
Leo B Posted yesterday at 05:46 AM Report Posted yesterday at 05:46 AM (edited) 11 hours ago, mfg said: On 9/6/2025 at 7:51 AM, Leo B said: Well, Leo’s list really answers the question… Looks like Stude switched ‘salt & pepper’ carpeting to all black at Avanti serial # R- 4709. OK. You mean only Fawn and Black is "Salt & Pepper" color, and by the looks of it. Good explanation. The list of running changes shows red and black for all black 4275. Still... my Avanti is 4543 and it has red and black carpet and a carpet that covers the entire front seat from underneath. I believe it is original. In poor condition and has been there for a very long time. At least in 1976. Also interesting is that the trunk was only carpeted on the bottom. Could this be because my Avanti is a "Las Vegas Driveaway" and has exceptions due to rush or other reasons. R4543 suppose not to include changes to -64. All other things are like -63 model. Even the manual shifter without chrome ring etc. Edited 23 hours ago by Leo B
mfg Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago 7 hours ago, Leo B said: OK. You mean only Fawn and Black is "Salt & Pepper" color, and by the looks of it. Good explanation. The list of running changes shows red and black for all black 4275. Still... my Avanti is 4543 and it has red and black carpet and a carpet that covers the entire front seat from underneath. I believe it is original. In poor condition and has been there for a very long time. At least in 1976. Also interesting is that the trunk was only carpeted on the bottom. Could this be because my Avanti is a "Las Vegas Driveaway" and has exceptions due to rush or other reasons. R4543 suppose not to include changes to -64. All other things are like -63 model. Even the manual shifter without chrome ring etc. So it sounds like your Avanti was built with the red & black speckled carpeting even though it’s almost 300 units later than when the red & black carpeting was withdrawn…. As Dwight indicated, and I agree, conflicting production information like this make the story of the Studebaker Avanti even more interesting!
regnalbob Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago 12 hours ago, Leo B said: Also interesting is that the trunk was only carpeted on the bottom. Could this be because my Avanti is a "Las Vegas Driveaway" and has exceptions due to rush or other reasons. Carpeting on the back wall of the trunk was eliminated at R-4309.
Dwight FitzSimons Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 23 hours ago, mfg said: Maybe where you’re from!!……..Do you live near regalbob? Let's not get into this kind of rhetoric. As far as the term "salt & pepper" carpet is concerned I will note that a true salt & pepper carpet would have to be black with white speckles. Fawn (light tan) looks nothing like salt. AFAIK Studebaker never used the term salt & pepper. So, it is a term made up by Studebaker fans. Therefore, no one person can define the term's meaning. The meaning is what the majority of Studebaker people say it is. Ok, so let's vote. --Dwight
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