studegary
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13 hours ago, mfg said:
Well, I'm fairly sure Mr. Trump is "A President of the United States"......so my original question is, of course, valid.
Gary, I believe you may be 'swinging after the bell' again!
Once again you are caught up by semantics. You know what you mean, but what you are claiming is not what your original query stated.
The Avanti contains the signature of a U. S. President, but it was NOT signed by a U. S. President.
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At that time (at least 1983) they were using a GM 1/2 ton pickup gearbox.
Studebaker Avantis were either 16:1 or 22:1, so I will make a guess at 3) 24:1.
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On 5/30/2017 at 6:49 PM, mfg said:
A President of the United States once signed the dashboard of an Avanti.....True?
And, if you feel this statement is true, which President?
Then I guess that the answer is false since Trump was not "President of the United States" in 2007 when the signature was made.
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8 minutes ago, mfg said:
Don't know!...It would be a 2006 or 2007 convertible, and Trump wrote "Your Fired" on the dashboard!!
I wonder if he was thinking of Comey??
That narrows it down to less than 35 cars.
I can't understand why someone would want any U. S. President signing an Avanti. What is the connection?
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5 hours ago, mfg said:
The last Avanti painted at the old South Bend factory was a 1988 convertible......That Avanti was ordered by a famous actor.....Who was that actor?
I wonder when this car was painted and if it started production as a 1987 model and became a 1988 model. My 1987 Avanti was built in South Bend. Avanti production moved to Youngstown during 1987 (August). I thought that some 1987s were made in each location and that all 1988 - 1991s were made in Youngstown. What is the Serial Number of the Avanti in question?
I do not know who the actor was.
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On 6/4/2017 at 4:45 PM, mfg said:
That's very good Gary...we agree to DIS-agree!...Now, let's move on!
This just appears to be a simple attempt by you to get the last word in.
I gave some supporting information to my number. I am still waiting for what you base your number on.
Even John Hull revised his 1991 production number from 15 in 1993 to 17 by 2008.
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I thought that it was August 1965, so to fit in with your options, I will say July. The sale of the Avanti assets was made in June 1964. At least by August 2, 1965 there was at least one body complete. The "Wall Street Journal" "release" article was August 28, 1964. The press releases by Avanti of the new Avanti II was August 2, 1965.
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1 hour ago, mfg said:
Interestingly, there are two 1991 Avanti convertibles with the same serial number listed in the 2016 AOAI roster, one in Florida and the other in New Jersey!
With all due respect to studegary's opinion, I will still consider 15 to be the correct number of 1991 Avanti convertibles built, at least until more definite information is uncovered.
There are other cases of repeat numbers in rosters. It is usually due to someone selling a vehicle and not deleting their ownership and the new owner also listing their ownership. It is really the same vehicle. Sometimes, it is just an error in reporting a number.
I consider John Hull's recent book, "Avanti The Complete Story", and other information that I have read to be "more definite information" than what you post as "fact" with no supporting evidence. I have read enough convincing information to change my mind and old records from 15 to 17.
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6 hours ago, mfg said:
Gary, please post the serial/sequence numbers of your two "extra" 1991 Avanti convertibles....Thanks!
1991 Avanti Serial Numbers are all in order; RBK 1201 - RBK 1217.
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On 6/1/2017 at 9:43 PM, studegary said:
What do you base your statement of 15 on? Perhaps you use the old data that I used to use. John Hull's Avanti book states 17 and I agree and believe that 17 based on information that I have learned since the 15 number was put out there in the 1990s.
It looks like Ed/"mfg" has no answer to my query.
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I suggest selling it as-is unless you can repair it yourself. Put it on eBay with a good description and pictures(including these). Have a very low starting price to develop auction interest and a reserve that you can live with. Some bidders may do their own repairs and/or have no idea what this type of repair costs.
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It depends on what "a little play" is. First find out where the play is coming from. Is it in the steering gear box, the center point steering bellcrank, etc.?
The play should not be excessive, but you will feel some. Has it changed over time?
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17 hours ago, mfg said:
15 (#3) is the correct answer.....(However, if Santa wants to drop off one of Gary's "extras" next Christmas eve, I'll gladly accept it!!!!
What do you base your statement of 15 on? Perhaps you use the old data that I used to use. John Hull's Avanti book states 17 and I agree and believe that 17 based on information that I have learned since the 15 number was put out there in the 1990s.
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I will go with none of the above. The production numbers that I have from long ago indicates 15 (answer 3), but John Hull's recent book states 17, so I will defer to him.
EDIT: I believe that the "extra" two were convertibles that were on consignment to dealer(s) and were later discovered and sold.
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2 hours ago, mfg said:
FALSE is the correct answer!....Although the STP folks will not give out 'amounts' information, they assure us that both zinc and phosphorous are included in their oil treatment!
I agree that STP Oil Treatment includes zinc and phosphorus, but I do not see how you can claim that it contains enough to justify your statement of "....provide...protection needed for engines..."
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I assume that you mean STP Oil Treatment (there are many STP products).
I will say true since STP Oil Treatment is mostly a viscosity improver.
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True! I am looking at a picture of Andy fueling an Avanti with Mobil Premium gasoline on August 1, 1962. There is "Mobil" in large letters behind Andy.
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Suspension feel and seats are two different things. My back can not tolerate 1963 Avanti seats for more than 100 miles (uncomfortable earlier than that). My late 1964 Avanti seats were okay, if I kept a rolled up towel for support of my lower back. I drove my 1987 Avanti for 500 miles at a time without any complaint from my back.
I do not see how anyone can lump all 1980s together, as far as ride goes. 1980 - 1985 are still built on a Studebaker chassis/suspension. 1987 - 1991 Avantis are built on a Chevrolet Monte Carlo or Caprice chassis.
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I almost agree with R1lark'sresponse. The decision was due to room, not safety. The decision was made by engineering, not stylists or high level management. The IDEA was probably from someone in the engineering department, but therefore the DECISION (NOT "IDEA") would be credited to Hardig
MFG's partial quote; "Whose idea was it ..."
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1 hour ago, mfg said:
All '65 Avanti ll's (actual production figures vary greatly), should be considered prototypes.....Dealer/customer ordered cars were '66's, hence the 'production line' moniker!
All manufacturers produce new cars that are not filling dealer or customer orders. These cars for stock are not prototypes. They are sold as regular production.
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All of the pressure is being applied from one side.
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1 hour ago, mfg said:
Answer to question......TRUE!
What do you base this statement on?
I pulled out John Hull's book and he states 56 Avantis for model year 1965.
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I agree with most of what Gunslinger posted.
I am most likely older than you. I have owned near new Studebaker Avantis and bought a brand new 1987 Avanti. The 1987 rode much more comfortably than the earlier models on the Studebaker chassis..
I have also worked on many Avantis from various years.
From what you request/desire I would recommend a 1987-2007 Avanti. There were 618 built for 1987 - 1991 and about 96 for 2001 - 2007.
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The plan to relaunch Italy’s Piaggio Aero Industries as a civil and defense aircraft manufacturer is gaining momentum some 20 months after moving production from an aging plant in Genoa to a $150 million, clean-sheet design factory in Villanova d’Albenga, about 56 miles southwest. This past September the firm delivered the first Avanti EVO twin turboprop manufactured there, and since then has delivered two more.I lifted this from a post on the SDC Forum (and that poster had lifted it from somewhere else).
Dimensional Avanti!
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Is that a minimum, maximum or is there some tolerance associated with that dimension>?