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The output hose. The magnesium impeller is brittle.
It's a pain to change the oil. It runs hot.
If it is a "pain" to change the oil, you must not be doing it the way that I do it. Search the SDC Forum for my method (too much to type her - takes as long for me to type it than to do the oil change).
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Thanks for doing this, Ed. I do much better on the postwar Studebaker trivia questions than on the Avanti trivia questions where I know more than some but less than others. As you may remember, some time back I was regularly posting Studebaker trivia questions on the SDC Forum, but It semed like this was frowned on. I do not know why peope can not just ignore what they do not like.
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True. Sales Letter 166 (July 24, 1963); "A stainless steel radiator air intake is now installed in production on Avanti models as standard equipment... Kit...for use on prior produced Avanti models."
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I believe that is true. It is an earlier number than even the 1963 1/2 models.
Wasn't the first 1964, R-4835?
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Found this one, maybe a removable hardtop? IDK, The car from "Diamonds are forever" https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/literary_007world_northamerica1.php3?s=locations Why it's white.....
Considering...http://flemingsbond.com/studillac/
The link shows a highly modified 1953 Studebaker Starliner. How would we know if that car was a Studillac? In any case, it would have started as a Starliner, not a Starlight. The only factory 1953 convertible has never had its front modified like that. It was a 1953 that was "updated" to appear as a 1954.
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Which one is more comfortable, the perforated Delux or the pleated Regal? I would think the Delux but I haven't spent enough time is either interior in good shape (mine's Delux and the front seats are pretty rough).
I think that it was more a matter of looks than comfort.
IMO, no 1963 Avanti seats are comfortable (especially for back support). I have driven thousands of miles in 1963 Avantis and my 1963 Studebaker Daytona Wagonaire with factory bucket seats (simlar to those in my 1964 Hawk). At least to me, those Wagonaire buckets were much more comfortable/supportive that the Avanti seats.
My 1964 Avanti seats were a little better than my 1963 Avanti's seats. Neither would hold a candle to the seats in my 1987 Avanti (and many other cars, including from the 1960s, like my 1967 Imperial Crown Coupe).
Keep in mind that the design for those 1963 Avanti seats was "lifted/stolen" from a small European sports car (which one does not immediately come to mind).
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Sit down with a nice warm cup & read this Studegary...http://www.kustomrama.com/index.php?title=Bill_Frick_Motors
My friends laughed at me for buying an Avanti.. "That's an Old Mans Car" Why? "Style" I said.
Fortunately, I'll never be a part of the "know it all clique", But I continue to learn.
MFG, Your trivia posts have led me to a wealth of information, Thanks!
Thanks for the interesting link. I do not know the source of this contemporary writing, but it does say Starlight and Starliner. However, if you look at the period advertisements, both the 1953 and 1954 ads show a Starliner and the 1954 ad specifically states Starliner (with no mention of Starlight).
I have never known of any Frick Studillacs that were not a hardtop or have I seen a picture of one. Does anyone here have a, know of or have a picture of a Frick Studillac that was/is not a hardtop?
I notice that one option was knock off Borrani wheels ($630). Bob Bourke put these on his own 1954 Starliner when it was new.
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It was a Black 1953 "Studillac" Starlight convertible driven by American agent Felix Leitner in "Diamonds are Forever".
A '53 with a Cadillac Engine. They were actually built & sold by Bill Frick Motors in Long Island, New York.
I thought that all of the Frick 1953 Studillacs were Starliners, not "Starlights". At least all of the ones that I have known of and those that still exist are Starliners.
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My second guess is the airline owned by Studebaker (T something A).
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My guess is STP.
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Studebaker production data counts 537 deluxe interiors, 3295 Regal interiors and 2 Special interiors for the '63Avanti. Additionally two '64 Avanti's were built with Deluxe interiors. These cars were built prior to the discontinuation of the deluxe option in September of '63. That leaves approximately 809 '64 Avanti's with Regal interiors. There has always been a discrepancy as to the total Studebaker Avanti's produced, 4,641, 4,647, etc.
You come up with 4643 if you go by the initial run of Serial Numbers up to the end of production. You have 4647 if you add in the early EX---- cars that got later Serial Numbers and were sold as new cars.
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Regnalbob got the correct answer at $20.
Studebaker Sales Letter No. 101, 10/1/62 covers this charge.
This shows that not all dealers had the same cost for their Avantis.
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For the 2001-2007 Avantis there is much confusion on this. The main problem is that the VIN viewed through the windshield is that of the donor car and not the Avanti VIN. Some of these have been titled/registered as Pontiac/Ford, Avanti or even homebuilt (or some variation of that, like a kit car).
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Loaded height for 1963 models;
Hawk 54.6 inches
Avanti 53.8 inches.
A convertible is the tallest one (1963 car), even taller than a Wagonaire.
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Since this forum is Avanti, I was referring to the Studebaker Avanti era (specifically 1963 model year).
Note that I am not asking about the regular advertising fee, but rather the added charge for "Mr. Ed" TV coverage.
Hint: it is not $25.
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Dealers located in an area having access to the "Mr. Ed" television program had to pay extra for this advertising. What was the per car charge for this?
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Thanks for the info. It would be good trivia to know the B#'s of the 9 Avanti's and the 1 Daytona. Also intriguing is, how many 305.5 engines the Garanatelli's built? I think any answer to that would be an estimate though.
A direct answer to your question - None. Regular R3 and R4 engines were 304.5 cid.
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How many "on the road" may be able to be determined from DMV records, but this would exclude show cars that are not registered for street use, cars in the restoration process, cars languishing around, parts cars, etc.
Stu C. recently did a search for remaining 1964 convertibles. I believe that he is up to about 25% accounted for.
I would think that the survival for 1964 Avantis would be higher. My guesstimate of surviving 1964 Avantis is 607.
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False - I believe that car was Avanti White.
The early prototypes were either Avanti Gold or Avanti White. I can only find NY Auto Show pictures in black and white just now and the Avanti looks more like white than gold. It was displayed on a turntable.
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There is a two-tone 1987 on eBay currently. That would be similar in body appearance to an '84-'85.
I do not think that Avanti bodies lend themselves to a good appearance with two-tone paint jobs.
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There were only 101 1972 Avantis built (yours is the 20th). I believe that they were all 400 cid. IMO, the 1972 400 is a good engine, based on my experience of many miles with one. The polution "garbage" mentioned in another post started with the 1973s.
If you search on the SDC Forum, there is a topic covering installing (about 2002) Camaro/Firebird bucket seats in an Avanti. These look at home in an Avanti and are MUCH more comfortable and give better support. This would be less expensive than a reupholster job and give you nice seats.
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Thank you for the kind words.
I have been reading some of the topics here for some time. The drum brakes on an Avanti topic finally got me to join up and post.
I have only owned three new and used Avantis, but I have worked on MANY.
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Post #18 on this topic is my first post on the AOAI Forum. I have been reading parts of the forum for some time. Now, you probably won't be able to get rid of me <G>. I have only owned three new and used Avantis, but I have worked on MANY.
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During the 1970s &-1980s, I worked part time at a shop that primarily worked on Studebakers. At that time (especially the 1970s), there were few 1960s Studebaker show cars. Most 1960s Studebakers were still in regular use.
For Avantis, I remember being involved in brake exchanges, frame changes, engine changes, etc.
At that time, Avanti brake parts were not common and were getting expensive. There were no aftermarket conversions readily available. Owners usually wanted a simple and cheap way to drive their Avantis. This resulted in changes to compete brake systems and engines. These parts were usually sourced from very rusty donor cars (NYS). This resulted in Avantis with drum brakes and 259 & 289 (non-R) engines.
Was the Avanti in question ever in NYS? I can't imagine that our shop was the only one keeping Studebakers, particularly Avantis, on the road that way.
Of course, this sounds ridiculus now, but it wasn't under the circumstances of the time. Quite a good Avanti was about $2K at that time and many Studebaker people drove them in the Winter because of the fiberglass body, not thinking of the frame and torque boxes.
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Definitely TRUE. As an example, my 1964 Avanti was one of several in a row that were not only the same exterior color, but also the same interior color and equipped with the same options, including Allstate tires.