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    Avanti and Studebaker

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  • My Avanti
    63 R1 Avanti 1250 & 63 R2 Avanti 1122

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  1. I remember your Avanti... and loved the paint at the show. Your picture doesn't do it justice, even better in the sun! You should send it to me to place in Avanti Magazine.
  2. Thanks!! I noticed that the owner was a member of the AOAI in 2000 and for a few years later, but not recently. On my TheAvanti.com registry, it was posted in 2003: R2 4 speed with T/T. Orig. color Gold now white. Final production date Jan.7th 1963. First sold in Reno as per order on Dec 17. Records indicate car spent its life in So.Cal until Nov.97. Many time show winner. All stock and original. The car apparently was sold and went to the current owner in New York State at the end of 1997. So as Southern California car, I'm guessing that the frame and torque boxes are fairly clean and rust free.
  3. It would be helpful if the car was running and driving, but be prepared to put what could amount to quite a bit of money in the car. Depending on how much fuel was in the gas tank when parked, much could be gone, or turned to sludge. You could drain the tank and find out how much or how little fuel remains by removing the rubber hose under the tank above the center of the rear axle. As for the brake, be prepared to at minimum, replace all the brake caliper and wheel cylinder seals, and at most, replace everything, all the disk brake calipers and rear wheel cylinders, consider how long the car as been stored and how rusty the brake parts may be. Brake hoses and all the brake lines should be inspected, and probably all replaced, especially if they are all original (lines) or old hoses. The brake master cylinder is most likely rusted too and needs to be rebuilt or replaced, and the power brake booster could be bad too. I'd also remove all the spark plugs, spray an oil fogger in each cylinder and try first to turn the engine over by hand, with the proper socket on the front pulley. If it moves slowly, then maybe bump the engine momentarily with a remote starter button to confirm. Then it may be safe to reinstall the spark plugs, prime the carburetor with a little fuel and see if the engine will run for a few seconds before you put more fuel in the tank. I don't know how much time and money the owner wants to put into the car, and if not much, it may be prudent to not do anything and sell the car for a lower amount, with the new owner figuring that they will have to put in more work to awaken the car.
  4. People often refer to the torque boxes as "hog troughs", but these are steel structures under the body, and directly behind each rocker panel, stretching from the front door pillar to just behind each rear wheel. They should be solid with no signs of rust through.
  5. Thanks for providing the pictures. It looks like a decent used Avanti, but not all original, ie; black paint under the hood (should be body color), aftermarket GM alternator and not detailed. The interior looks nice enough, but worn and wrong colors in some areas. It looks like it has not been started in a long time so you did well by not trying to start the engine. Most likely the brake will not work and need to be refurbished. On the plus side, it is an R2 (supercharged) model from 1963 and would be a four speed transmission. It can take quite a bit of money to get it running, depending on what needs to be done, and a quality, first rate restoration would probably be more than the car's value. What is the vehicle serial number. It looks like an early production model, and that could make a difference. The serial number would be on the title, and also on a metal tag that is riveted to the top of the frame rail on the passenger side, directly below the heater motor where It sticks out of the firewall. The Hagerty valuation guide lists an average price for this model at $30, 300, but their #4 condition is estimated currently at $16,000. You can read the current values I've copied and decide for yourself. But in this condition, I think $12,000 to $15,000 would be a fair price if you or the owner does not do any work to the car as it sits now in the garage. And if the frame or torque boxed (steel boxes behind the rocker panels on both sides) are rusty, then you are looking at quite expensive repairs. The torque boxes alone can cost $1200 for the parts, and labor to install would be much more. So if the chassis is rusted badly, prices would be much less than what I state above. Here is the link to the page too: https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1963-Studebaker-Avanti?id=10267 Hope this helps, Lew Current Values #1 Concours$77,500 Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of the best vehicle, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the finest concours. Perfectly clean, the vehicle has been groomed down to the tire treads. Painted and chromed surfaces are mirror-like. Dust and dirt are banned, and materials used are correct and superbly fitted. The one word description for #1 vehicles is "concours." #2 Excellent$49,500 #2 vehicles could win a local or regional show. They can be former #1 vehicles that have been driven or have aged. Seasoned observers will have to look closely for flaws, but will be able to find some not seen by the general public. The paint, chrome, glass and finishes will all appear as excellent. No excessive smoke will be seen on startup, no unusual noises will emanate from the engine. The vehicle will drive as a new vehicle of its era would. The one word description for #2 vehicles is "excellent." #3 Good$30,300 #3 vehicles could possess some, but not all of the issues of a #4 vehicle, but they will be balanced by other factors such as a fresh paint job or a new, correct interior where applicable. #3 vehicles drive and run well, but might have some incorrect parts. These vehicles are not used for daily transportation but are ready for a long tour without excuses, and the casual passerby will not find any visual flaws. "Good" is the one word description of a #3 vehicle. #4 Fair$16,000 #4 vehicles are daily drivers, with flaws visible to the naked eye. The chrome might have pitting or scratches, the windshield might be chipped. Paintwork is imperfect, and perhaps the body has a minor dent. Split seams or a cracked dash, where applicable, might be present. No major parts are missing, but the wheels could differ from the originals, or other non- stock additions might be present. A #4 vehicle can also be a deteriorated restoration. "Fair" is the one word that describes a #4 vehicle. Value Adjustments +15% for factory 4-spd on R-1. +25% for factory 4-spd on R-2. -15% for 3-spd. -8% for Regal interior. +20% for factory a/c (N/A w/R-2).
  6. AVANTI II 1971 for SALE Mileage: 22,762 Price: $14,500 Date: June 1, 2020 AVANTI II 1971 / South Bend, IND / Update PARTS STATUS ESTIMATE BODY Shell no flaws Paint (silver) needs to be re-painted $2000 Windows 7 good, LR quarter is cracked $179 Window seals needs new F&R, & front vents $300 Bumpers rust, needs to be de-chromed $200 CHASSIS Frame no flaws Torque box some rust $200 ENGINE Engine (Corvette V8 350) good shape, new spark plugs, new oil Radiator good shape, flushed out Exhaust good shape, new gasket Air Intake Edelbrock upgrade TRANSMISION Manual 4 speed replaced with Automatic 4 speed overdrive 700 R4 DRIVER SYSTEMS Steering new pump, new hoses Brakes good shape SUSPENSION Wheels (American Racing) like new Tires (P245/60R15) like new Springs / Shocks good shape PASSENGER COMFORT AC good shape Heat good shape Stereo (Radio Shack w/ cassette) needs to be replaced $300 INTERIOR Seats (vinyl black) good shape Dash good shape Gauges (gas gauge fluctuates) have new bobber, needs to be installed $100 SAFETY Horn (broken) new Seat belts (2-point lap) new 3-point belts Sideview mirrors (broken L, no R) new cool Avanti 1963 L and R mirrors Wipers (missing pump and reservoir) new pump and reservoir ELECTRICAL Battery (old) new Starter motor (broken) new Ignition GM HEI ignition system upgrade Anthony Bennett 6178 Beverleys Mill Rd Broad Run, VA 21037 202-321-2366 AnthonyGordonBennett@gmail.com
  7. lschuc

    Richard Vaux..RIP

    The classified ad for both of Dick's Avantis, the 1964 and a 1984 are listed in the current issue of Avanti Magazine, along with a picture of each.
  8. This prototype body was on display for awhile at the Studebaker National Museum, before going to Virgil Marple's farm. It was sold today in the estate auction.
  9. lschuc

    Avanti EX2942!

    EX2942 was sent to Paxton/Granatelli on March 20, 1962 and was the Duo Cento Bonneville car.
  10. lschuc

    Early Avantis!

    You are ALL WRONG!! There were 10 prototype cars built, all with EX serial numbers. One (EX2943) was later destroyed by fire. They were all built between January 18 and April 20, 1962. They all have an EX serial number, a prototype number, and FOUR EX cars received a final assigned serial number (two for the New York auto show and two for the engineering and PR). See the attached image from John Hull's prototype book distributed at the 2018 AOAI national meet in Tacoma, Washington.
  11. Please accept our concern for AOAI members, family, friends or co-workers presently or in the future affected by the COVID-19 virus. The health and welfare of each and every AOAI member is of prime importance to the national board, and while current health conditions are unknown across America for later this summer and fall, at our press deadline of May 4 for Avanti Magazine, the local Gateway Chapter meet committee, in coordination with your national board, made the decision out of an abundance of caution to cancel this year’s national meet planned for September 9-12. Few registrations have been received and there are no assurances that our hotel and other venues will be open or available by September 9. All planned tour locations, as well as the concours site are closed indefinitely and there are no assurances that hotel restaurants and facilities will be fully available. However, realizing that risk may still exist, knowledgeable information at this time including limitations on group gatherings have made it necessary to put the health and welfare of every member as our top priority. Rest assured that all registration funds will be returned by the Gateway Chapter. If you have made hotel reservations, your rooms will automatically be released, thus there is no need to call the hotel to cancel your guest rooms. We regret having to cancel this year’s meet, but stay healthy and we hope to see everyone next year. This is a trying time for all, and until there is a vaccine for this virus, we may all be at risk. Please address any questions or concerns to Don Hart at donhart@aoai.org or Lewis Schucart at editor@aoai.org.
  12. lschuc

    Painted

    No... not my car. It's for a client of Brad's. And it is NOT base/clear. Single stage like original. 😎
  13. Just click on the picture of the truck in this forum thread and the video should start playing.
  14. Here is the jacking instructions from the truck that I scanned and cleaned up, and is sized the same as the original instruction sheet. Studebaker printed these on regular white paper and glued them to either the trunk lid, or more often to the bottom of the spare tire cover. Jacking Instructions.pdf
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