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2 hours ago, Nelson said:
Bob. You could be right with the R1 and R2 cars but all the R3 4 speed Avantis did have the close ratio box. It must have been standard equipment for the R3 cars in general and you would need to special order the wide box.
Nelson,
Based on two Studebaker Sales Letters the close ratio was listed as an option for all model Avantis.
1 Prices and changes - Avanti R3 Ultra High Performance Engine. # 161 6/10/63
" Required with this engine at extra cost is a four-speed floor mounted manual shift transmission with optional close-coupled ratios."
2 New Avanti Options and Revised Avanti Order Guide. #174 9/16/63
" For those wanting a 4 Speed Manual Transmisson with a close ratio, we are making available the T10C transmission."
I have found that R-5546 does have the close ratio transmission.
If your R-5237 has the close ratio that will be two out of five.
Would be interesting to know if the other three have the close ratio.
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The close ratio 4 speed (T10C) became available as an option for the Avanti after 9/16/63
Because of the late availability its possible no Avantis were built with the close ratio transmission.
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Three more.
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You have to turn the valve to the left (toward the engine) about two inches to remove it.
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On 4/5/2023 at 10:17 AM, mfg said:
After the fact, Studebaker Avanti designer Bob Andrews would have liked to have seen one major change in the Avanti's frontal design...What was the change?
Adjust the hood profile to have the same angle as the leading edge of the front fender as it was on original design model.
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On 4/5/2023 at 10:10 AM, mfg said:
Avanti designer Bob Andrews once described the rather unusual fuel inlet intrusion into the passenger compartment of a 1963 Studebaker Avanti as .......?.......
"very aircraft"
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Here is the wiring diagram.
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The correct part number is 1559721.
An exact replacement is available here.
Part number 1481375.
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That is not frame damage.
Here are pictures of an NOS frame.
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On 3/19/2023 at 10:56 PM, paul shuffleburg said:
Has anyone installed Classic Enterprises torque boxes and how hard were they
and how long did it take?
This may be some help.
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An AM radio was not standard, it was an $85.00 option. AM-FM was not an option for 1963.
The following is a note from the 1963 Studebaker dealer price list.
A rear speaker could be ordered without a radio for $12.95.
Factory installed AM-FM listed for $154.50. Dealer cost was $117.50.
Uninstalled dealer price was $149.50. Dealer cost was $113.62.
106 AM-FM radios were installed in 1964 Avantis.
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43 minutes ago, Mark L said:
I didn't consider that. Would it have pre-painted turquoise?
It could have been painted or in primer.
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43 minutes ago, Mark L said:
I found my August 2014 copy of Turning Wheels. The article starts on page 24. While it does have something similar to what I'm looking for, it doesn't have the data I need.
I'm specifically trying to identify the car serial number that body 63-RQ 1639 was installed on when it left the factory so I can order a copy of the production records (I probably should have just asked that). My car is 63R-1204A and was delivered with body 63RQ-379, but now has body 63-RQ 1639. I'd like to know how 1639 was painted and equipped when it left the factory.
63 RQ-1639 could be a replacement body and never installed on a chassis from the factory.
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John Hull created a list of South Bend bodies with serial numbers and body numbers, no engine numbers.
This was published in the August 2014 issue of Turning Wheels.
I don't know of any list for Ashtabula bodies.
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Letter from Studebaker to California Dealers.
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13 minutes ago, Nelson said:
I can sure tell you two are old buds from way back. 😂
Yes, this is all he has since he was banned from the SDC Forum.
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2 hours ago, regnalbob said:
Part of the deviation.
Without the production order you have no proof it was built without an engine.
An Avanti came with an R1 and 3 speed manual as standard equipment. Since this was a special order Avanti the R1 and 3 speed would have been deleted and not a Powershift.
The 19 indicates this was built with a Powershift.
Until a production order or some other documentation is found there is no proof that R-4795 was built without an engine or transmission.
10 minutes ago, mfg said:Without the production order you have no proof it was built without an engine.
And conversly, you have no proof it was built WITH an engine!
So, until the production order turns up, (which it probably won't), this has become a moot point.....and that's that! 😁
If you are going to quote me make sure you post all of it.
I made an effort to find out if it was or wasn't.
Thats more than you are capable of doing!😁
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9 minutes ago, mfg said:
That does not make sense Bob...what's the deviation?
What it PROBABLY means is 'delete Powershift transmission'.... just as they deleted the engine in R4795 🙂
Part of the deviation.
Without the production order you have no proof it was built without an engine.
An Avanti came with an R1 and 3 speed manual as standard equipment. Since this was a special order Avanti the R1 and 3 speed would have been deleted and not a Powershift.
The 19 indicates this was built with a Powershift.
Until a production order or some other documentation is found there is no proof that R-4795 was built without an engine or transmission.
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59 minutes ago, mfg said:
Why would a Powershift transmission require a "production change"?
It doesn't. Item code 19 indicates it was built with a Powershift.
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On 3/5/2023 at 8:39 PM, mfg said:
You gents need to consider what the 99-19 deviation tag may have indicated.
Studebaker used item code 99 on the production order to list any changes.
Item code 19 is for Automatic Floor Shift.
A few examples of the use of 99.
63R-1001 Install antenna.
63R-1025 Install antenna.
63R-1014 Install antenna, send to engineering, tag Granatelli.
R-5373 Tag Granatelli.
R-4513 Deviation Permit 5550 Captive Air tires.
R-4130
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15 hours ago, Nelson said:
I don’t see or know of any documentation saying the car was ordered less engine. Only that the PO has not been located.
4 hours ago, Nelson said:I definitely respect John’s research but I still don’t see how he can say “we know 4795 was delivered with no engine or transmission”. Unless I’m missing something or something was unintentionally left out of the article, I wouldn’t go on record with that statement. Again, I respect John so maybe I’m missing something.
We must be the only ones who do not believe it was built with no engine or transmission.
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37 minutes ago, Nelson said:
But, if Joe actually purchased out of SB stock he would have paid plenty for the car. If he bought it out of Paxton’s inventory it could very well have been another $500 Avanti.
This Avanti was not bought out of inventory, it was a special order.
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18 hours ago, Nelson said:
Well, the insinuation is that Joe ordered a Avanti with no engine in order to install a competitors engine. That would seem odd to me. I don’t think that actually happened that way as I think the Stude engine was removed and a Cadillac installed after Stude made the announcement it was discontinuing production in SB. Studebaker was still Joe’s employer, so it appears, to my way of thinking, as odd that he would install the Cadillac in a nearly new Studebaker.
I agree.
R-4795 was built in June, 1963 and the Cadillac 429 was not available yet. Production of the 429 started with the 1964 model year.
Some early 1964 Cadillacs still had the 390.
In June, 1963 the Granatellis were still getting the R3 and R4 engines ready for production and possibly making plans for Bonneville.
Front Brake Junction Block
in 1963-64 Avanti
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This is the original junction block used on the Avanti.
There are four openings for the brake lines.