mfg Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 Where are spacers used in a factory Studebaker Avanti R3? (Not body related!)
mfg Posted January 28 Author Report Posted January 28 56 minutes ago, Nelson said: Spacers or shims? Hmmm! The definitions of those two words kind of overlap… I’ll go with either/or!
mfg Posted January 28 Author Report Posted January 28 2 hours ago, 1963r2 said: Front coil spring. Yes, an R3 equipped Stude Avanti could have a spacer under the left, or perhaps both, front coil springs!
Nelson Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 10 hours ago, mfg said: Yes, an R3 equipped Stude Avanti could have a spacer under the left, or perhaps both, front coil springs! 11 hours ago, mfg said: Hmmm! The definitions of those two words kind of overlap… I’ll go with either/or! True. I was thinking precision adjustment for shim but it is a spacer in the the raw sense of the word.
mfg Posted January 28 Author Report Posted January 28 3 hours ago, Nelson said: I can think of 3 more items that would qualify as spacers/shims…… Any more thoughts here? HINT…. These would also be common to an R1 or R2 equipped Stude Avanti!
64studeavanti Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 (edited) spacers used with transmission mounts. one for automatics, 2 for manual. Edited January 28 by 64studeavanti
Nelson Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 Factory R3 Avantis typically used shims at the back side of the lower control arms to gain positive caster.
Nelson Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 If my memory is serving me today I think the steering column at the dash was shimmed as needed to accommodate the shims under the cowl?
brad Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 The steering box should have a lower mounting bolt that is slotted in the frame so it's shaft angle is adjustable to line up with the steering column. That is a good reason to keep the box to frame bolts loose when replacing the rag joint, and lower column bushing. Tighten the frame bolts last after so there is NO binding anywhere in the system.
mfg Posted January 28 Author Report Posted January 28 2 hours ago, Nelson said: If my memory is serving me today I think the steering column at the dash was shimmed as needed to accommodate the shims under the cowl? Yes… The shims sometimes used between the dash crossmember and steering column is one I had! Any other thoughts?
mfg Posted January 28 Author Report Posted January 28 2 hours ago, 64studeavanti said: spacers used with transmission mounts. one for automatics, 2 for manual. Yes, the spacer used between left rear engine mount and frame crossmember ( in Avantis with auto trans) is one of the answers I had!……. However, I’m not familiar with spacers used with manual transmission mounts….?
64studeavanti Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 There are 2 spacers between the transmission and mount on manual transmissions. The parts manual calls them washer, spacing. part number 1548406.
64studeavanti Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 there are also 4 spacers between the brake booster and mounting bracket.
mfg Posted January 28 Author Report Posted January 28 22 minutes ago, 64studeavanti said: there are also 4 spacers between the brake booster and mounting bracket. Yes, the four spacers used between brake booster and mounting bracket was the last on my list… Well done! And I’ll take your word for it on the manual trans mount spacers (I see them mentioned in book)…. but for the life of me I can’t remember seeing them on an Avanti… Oh well!!!
64studeavanti Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 I believe they are 1/2" thick and were also on other manual transmission Studebakers. I have a couple of spares. If I can clear off enough space, I will post a picture. On my 64 4spd, I had vibration issues. I saw another car had them, so put some on mine. Vibration gone. I assume it was enough to throw the driveline angles off.
mfg Posted January 28 Author Report Posted January 28 42 minutes ago, 64studeavanti said: I believe they are 1/2" thick and were also on other manual transmission Studebakers. I have a couple of spares. If I can clear off enough space, I will post a picture. On my 64 4spd, I had vibration issues. I saw another car had them, so put some on mine. Vibration gone. I assume it was enough to throw the driveline angles off. Interesting… I wish there were clear illustrations of those spacers in the manuals. (maybe they are shown in the Avanti workshop manual)…. I haven’t ventured out to garage to look at it yet… This is important to me, as I’m supposed to help a friend convert a ‘64 Avanti from auto to 4 speed this coming spring.
Nelson Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 There are spacers/shims at the disc brake bridge to square with the rotor.
mfg Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 2 hours ago, Nelson said: There are spacers/shims at the disc brake bridge to square with the rotor. Yep… you’re ‘ON THE MONEY” there!!!
Nelson Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 And shims at the top of the king pins., at one side of the axle in the rear end on R1 and R2.
Nelson Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 Spacers at the hinge to door connection for adjustments.
mfg Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, Nelson said: And shims at the top of the king pins., at one side of the axle in the rear end on R1 and R2. And I could only think of THREE!!!!!!
Nelson Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 Shims or spacers at the door latch mechanism at the B pillar. Spacers at all four corner connections of bumper to body. Just a lot of shims in our Avantis🤔
mfg Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 44 minutes ago, Nelson said: Shims or spacers at the door latch mechanism at the B pillar. Spacers at all four corner connections of bumper to body. Just a lot of shims in our Avantis🤔 Amen!….. (And nice job!)
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