Avanti Oil!

[mfg]

Is it possible for a 1964 Studebaker Avanti to have a ‘full flow’ 289 V8 engine and not have an oil filter?

[Gunslinger]

Of course it’s possible…but did any actually leave the factory is a better question.  I would say no as the oil filter was a standard thing on R engines.  I could see an exception made possibly for a special car equipped with a remote filter such as for purposes such as speed runs at Bonneville in a modified non-stock class.  

[mfg]

8 minutes ago, Gunslinger said:

Of course it’s possible…but did any actually leave the factory is a better question.  I would say no as the oil filter was a standard thing on R engines.  I could see an exception made possibly for a special car equipped with a remote filter such as for purposes such as speed runs at Bonneville in a modified non-stock class.  

Sorry, but you sort of went off in the wrong direction on this question Gun…. Any other thoughts on this one?

HINT….Think REPLACEMENT!

[mfg]

Thoughts?

[lschuc]

Well,  if a replacement engine pre-1962 from a dealer's existing stock could have been installed, but all 1963 and 1963 V8s used full-flow engines.... except for possibly export versions to some countries.

[Mark63Avanti]

Is this asking can you install a plate where the full flow filter would be and simply run the engine that way?

[mfg]

1 hour ago, lschuc said:

Well,  if a replacement engine pre-1962 from a dealer's existing stock could have been installed, but all 1963 and 1963 V8s used full-flow engines.... except for possibly export versions to some countries.

Getting close!!

[mfg]

1 hour ago, Mark63Avanti said:

Is this asking can you install a plate where the full flow filter would be and simply run the engine that way?

Who says you never get trivia questions right??

YOU NAILED IT !

And I once owned such a Studebaker Avanti!… Originally an R2, the factory installed short block was changed out with a factory replacement ‘full flow’ 289 engine long before I purchased the car……

The new short block had no serial number on the machined pad… and whoever installed it neglected to remove the factory oil filter block off plate from the side of the block! ( a situation which I later corrected)

So the answer to this trivia question is YES… it is possible to find a ‘64 (or a ‘63) Avanti with a full flow 289 under its hood and no oil filter!

 

[mfg]

P.S. Gunslinger…. If you had stopped at “Of course it’s possible”…. you would have had the correct answer!!

[mfg]

I’d guess Studebaker shipped some 289 replacement ‘full flow’ short block engines with the filter block off plate for owners of earlier V8 Studebaker’s whose original engine either never had an oil filter, or gave the customer the option of continuing to use the by-pass type of oil filter at top of engine (if so equipped)

[Mark63Avanti]

I think Gunslinger deserves the prize for this question. I lose again!

I did see a 1950's Studebaker for sale that had a full flow engine made to look like an older engine (for the appearance of the car).

[mfg]

16 minutes ago, Mark63Avanti said:

I think Gunslinger deserves the prize for this question. I lose again!

I did see a 1950's Studebaker for sale that had a full flow engine made to look like an older engine (for the appearance of the car).

Gunslinger felt we were only speaking of a full flow engine leaving the factory inside a vehicle (without an oil filter)… which was not the questions intent.

Edited Sunday at 02:14 PM by mfg
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[brad]

I built an engine with both the full flow and the by-pass filter on top. You can't have too clean oil in my opinion.