mfg Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 (edited) Someone converting a Studebaker Avanti from automatic to manual transmission could utilize a ‘61 Stude V8 four speed clutch housing and a ‘64 Stude four speed T-10 transmission…..True? Edited May 29 by mfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A0136 Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 False. The 61 bell housing would need a 61-62 Stude T10. Or the 64 T10 would need a 63-64 bell housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted May 29 Author Report Share Posted May 29 2 hours ago, A0136 said: False. The 61 bell housing would need a 61-62 Stude T10. Or the 64 T10 would need a 63-64 bell housing. Sorry, the answer to this puzzler is TRUE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight FitzSimons Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 1 hour ago, mfg said: Sorry, the answer to this puzzler is TRUE! How so? Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regnalbob Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 3 hours ago, A0136 said: False. The 61 bell housing would need a 61-62 Stude T10. Or the 64 T10 would need a 63-64 bell housing. 1 hour ago, mfg said: Sorry, the answer to this puzzler is TRUE! Steve is correct, the answer is false. The 1961 bell housing (1552737) is used for the Chevy T-10 bolt pattern. The 1964 T-10 uses the Ford pattern and Studebaker bell housing (1539373). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted May 30 Author Report Share Posted May 30 4 hours ago, Dwight FitzSimons said: How so? Please explain. ANSWER!….. The ‘61-‘62 Stude V8 four speed clutch housing was originally created by modifying the ‘58-‘64 Ford pattern Stude V8 clutch housing…… Although the holes to mount up the ‘63-‘64 Ford pattern four speed trans would need to be drilled and tapped to accommodate the later transmission, the ‘61-‘62 clutch housing has the same bosses and machined surface as the later ‘63-‘64 housing. A bit extreme?… of course… However, IN A PINCH IT WOULD INDEED WORK!!!! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted May 30 Author Report Share Posted May 30 It’s always amazed me how Studebaker parts are so adaptable to different situations… if one only takes the time to look!….Especially since the last Stude parts department closed some fifty odd years ago!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A0136 Posted June 1 Report Share Posted June 1 When I first saw this trivia question I thought it was a no brainer. The 61-62 and 63-64 ( or 56-64 ) bell housing / clutch housing have a different bolt pattern, part number and casting number so they wouldn’t interchange. So the answer was false. But even after 50+ years of owning and working on Studebaker and Avanti cars and Studebaker trucks I am still learning. I have both type of housings so I took some pictures. On the 61-62 housing I marked where the bolt holes would go to make that housing work for ether bolt pattern, my plan is to put the 61-62 housing in the 59 Lark for some spirited driving. I have 4 speeds with both pattern and different 1st gear ratio’s so with this new knowledge I will drill it for both bolt patterns. Well played mfg. Thank you Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight FitzSimons Posted June 1 Report Share Posted June 1 So, obviously, one could go in one direction with this bellhousing swap, but not the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1lark Posted June 1 Report Share Posted June 1 5 minutes ago, Dwight FitzSimons said: So, obviously, one could go in one direction with this bellhousing swap, but not the other. If you drilled out the '61/'62 bellhousing as Ed suggests, you could use either an early T10 or the later T10. I guess that is "either direction". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted June 1 Author Report Share Posted June 1 To A0136…. Thanks much for posting the pics…. You have certainly made clearer what I was trying to get across! Best of luck with your ‘59!…Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted June 1 Author Report Share Posted June 1 7 hours ago, r1lark said: If you drilled out the '61/'62 bellhousing as Ed suggests, you could use either an early T10 or the later T10. I guess that is "either direction". Paul, I believe what Dwight actually means is that a person can install a ‘63-‘64 Stude T-10 behind a ‘61-‘62 clutch housing….. but a ‘ 61-‘62 Stude T-10 cannot be installed behind a ‘63-‘64 clutch housing… and I agree with him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight FitzSimons Posted June 2 Report Share Posted June 2 3 hours ago, mfg said: Paul, I believe what Dwight actually means is that a person can install a ‘63-‘64 Stude T-10 behind a ‘61-‘62 clutch housing….. but a ‘ 61-‘62 Stude T-10 cannot be installed behind a ‘63-‘64 clutch housing… and I agree with him! Yes, correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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