bbstudegal Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) I realize my chances are next to nil but am looking for a rebuilt engine for my '64 Avanti R2 I'm having restored. Crankshaft is in rough shape. I've checked SDC forum and other sites. My mechanic can have it done through his shop, but trying to see if there is a cheaper option. Edited April 4, 2023 by bbstudegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 If you intend to change out the block, any late '62-'64 289 Stude V8 would make a good starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsr2 Posted April 5, 2023 Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 A fresh engine will start around 5K, how much you can do yourself will affect price. To drop off the car & pick it up with the engine restored these days would likely start at 10K. And most of those jobs will require remediation. A cheaper option? an '86 Camaro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbstudegal Posted April 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 Thank you both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbstudegal Posted April 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 Hi mfg, I talked to my restoration guy and he said they can change out the block. I also contacted another Stude guy who has a complete NOS cloverleaf short block. Block, crank, rods, pistons, cam, timing gears. Would that work in a '64 R2 Avanti? I'm thinking so, but want to confirm. On 4/4/2023 at 11:56 AM, mfg said: If you intend to change out the block, any late '62-'64 289 Stude V8 would make a good starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight FitzSimons Posted April 5, 2023 Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, bbstudegal said: Hi mfg, I talked to my restoration guy and he said they can change out the block. I also contacted another Stude guy who has a complete NOS cloverleaf short block. Block, crank, rods, pistons, cam, timing gears. Would that work in a '64 R2 Avanti? I'm thinking so, but want to confirm. Definition of "short block": the COMPLETE block with pistons, rods, crankshaft, cam, timing gears, etc already fitted. A cloverleaf short block could be a 259 or 289, or possibly an Avanti R1/R2. Any late-1962 to 64 Studebaker V8 short block will fit: 259, 289, R1, or R2. That is, the Avanti heads, etc will bolt up. But, it would take either an R1 or R2 short block to be correct for your car. As someone has already probably said the R1 and R2 short blocks are identical except for the engine's serial number stamped at the front top of the block. An Avanti R1's S/N will start with "R", an R2's will start with "RS". Larks and Hawks were available with Avanti engines in '63 & 64. Those serial numbers start with "JT" (R1), or "JTS" (R2). Those short blocks are identical to the Avanti's R1 & R2 engines. --Dwight Edited April 5, 2023 by Dwight FitzSimons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 If the crank is bad, why replace the block? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbstudegal Posted April 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 20 hours ago, Dwight FitzSimons said: Definition of "short block": the COMPLETE block with pistons, rods, crankshaft, cam, timing gears, etc already fitted. A cloverleaf short block could be a 259 or 289, or possibly an Avanti R1/R2. Any late-1962 to 64 Studebaker V8 short block will fit: 259, 289, R1, or R2. That is, the Avanti heads, etc will bolt up. But, it would take either an R1 or R2 short block to be correct for your car. As someone has already probably said the R1 and R2 short blocks are identical except for the engine's serial number stamped at the front top of the block. An Avanti R1's S/N will start with "R", an R2's will start with "RS". Larks and Hawks were available with Avanti engines in '63 & 64. Those serial numbers start with "JT" (R1), or "JTS" (R2). Those short blocks are identical to the Avanti's R1 & R2 engines. --Dwight OK. Thank you Dwight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbstudegal Posted April 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 17 hours ago, 64studeavanti said: If the crank is bad, why replace the block? There are other issues. Decided just to have it done while the guys have the engine out instead of waiting and having to do it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1inxs Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 2 hours ago, bbstudegal said: There are other issues. Decided just to have it done while the guys have the engine out instead of waiting and having to do it later. Sounds like a great project, well worth the research you are doing. Sounds like it will be a fun car when you’re finished with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbstudegal Posted April 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 On 4/6/2023 at 4:58 PM, 1inxs said: Sounds like a great project, well worth the research you are doing. Sounds like it will be a fun car when you’re finished with it. Indeed it will!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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