mfg Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 Of the nine '64 Studebakers taken to Bonneville in 1963 to attempt breaking several then existing speed records, I wonder how many still exist? (not really a trivia question..simply a question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 That is an interesting question. I doubt if many are still standing. Maybe none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted February 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 9 hours ago, Nelson said: That is an interesting question. I doubt if many are still standing. Maybe none. I probably should have said ten...I forgot about the Due Cento! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted February 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 Well, we know for certain that the three Avantis still exist.... POSSIBLY one of the Hawks... NO IDEA on the Lark types 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 I thought you meant howmany records still stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted February 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Nelson said: I thought you meant howmany records still stand Yes Nelson I see what you mean..my question did sound like that...and it really would be interesting to know how many, if any, of Studebaker's 1963 Bonneville speed records still stand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 I own two of the convertibles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted February 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Nelson said: I own two of the convertibles. Well, as the kids say today,... THAT'S AWESOME !!!! 😀😀 Did Studebaker take two R3 Daytona convertibles and one R4 engined job to Bonneville? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 Yes, #1 and 2 are both R3 car. Those two I own. There was also a R4 convertible. Serial number 1 convertible was a build mule for the 64 convertible and was actually built on a frame with no X member. I don’t think this car was ever intended to leave Studebaker and sold to the general public. However, in the total confusion at the end, Paxton ended up with the car and sold it. Paxton took advantage of no X member as the car was a little lighter than the sister car. It was equipped with a 3.31 gear as opposed to a 3.07 and was used for the standing start runs. The other car, #2, was used for long range runs and had the 3.07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted February 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Nelson said: Yes, #1 and 2 are both R3 car. Those two I own. There was also a R4 convertible. Serial number 1 convertible was a build mule for the 64 convertible and was actually built on a frame with no X member. I don’t think this car was ever intended to leave Studebaker and sold to the general public. However, in the total confusion at the end, Paxton ended up with the car and sold it. Paxton took advantage of no X member as the car was a little lighter than the sister car. It was equipped with a 3.31 gear as opposed to a 3.07 and was used for the standing start runs. The other car, #2, was used for long range runs and had the 3.07. This forum is GOOD!.... I say that because of all the 'new' information which has been posted lately...I'm sure I'm not the only person who finds this stuff VERY INTERESTING!! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted February 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 How about the little six cylinder Stude Commander that topped out at around 102 MPH.....Anyone happen to know if that 'Bonneville' Studebaker still exists? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted February 11, 2023 Report Share Posted February 11, 2023 There were two six cylinder cars at Bonneville, #6 and #7. Their engines were assigned a B# just like the R3 and R4’s. Also, their B numbers just happened to fall where they may in the B production sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted February 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2023 13 hours ago, Nelson said: There were two six cylinder cars at Bonneville, #6 and #7. Their engines were assigned a B# just like the R3 and R4’s. Also, their B numbers just happened to fall where they may in the B production sequence. That's another interesting bit of info...I should have guessed the Granatellis also prepared the six cylinder Stude engines....I'd say their "B" engine numbers confirm that! Also, I didn't know Studebaker sent TWO six cylinder cars to Bonneville..but that also makes sense, with one probably being a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad Posted February 11, 2023 Report Share Posted February 11, 2023 (edited) Were the 6 cylinders hopped up like the V8s? Edited February 11, 2023 by brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 Brad. I don’t think so. I’m sure they were blue printed and probably lose but until someone opens one up it will be a mystery. However, one does exist, we know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted February 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 2/11/2023 at 8:01 PM, Nelson said: Brad. I don’t think so. I’m sure they were blue printed and probably lose but until someone opens one up it will be a mystery. However, one does exist, we know that. Do you know if that 6 cyl car is in original condition? (Has it been restored?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 I don’t know of any of the cars still in existence. I just know one of the engines still exist and is in storage at the museum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1963r2 Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1963r2 Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 You can't see it very well but it's the R4 convertible. Pb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted February 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 Yes, must be the car with the "x" member removed that was mentioned in another thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted February 28, 2023 Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 No, that was the #1 R3 convertible. No X member in that car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted February 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2023 15 hours ago, Nelson said: No, that was the #1 R3 convertible. No X member in that car. OK...understood now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted March 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 On 2/26/2023 at 7:05 AM, 1963r2 said: This is quite the photo!!...Complete with Andy Granatelli's signature! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight FitzSimons Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 On 2/26/2023 at 7:05 AM, 1963r2 said: Obviously, this car has no X member. Note how twisted the rear "axle" is relative to the front. --Dwight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 Exactly what I was thinking😉 I think that photograph is actually one I had signed by Granatelli. Now it pops up in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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