Bonneville Studes!

[mfg]

Of the nine '64 Studebakers taken to Bonneville in 1963 to attempt  breaking several then existing speed records, I wonder how many still exist?

(not really a trivia question..simply a question)

[Nelson]

That is an interesting question. I doubt if many are still standing. Maybe none.

[mfg]

9 hours ago, Nelson said:

That is an interesting question. I doubt if many are still standing. Maybe none.

I probably should have said ten...I forgot about the Due Cento! 

[mfg]

Well, we know for certain that the three Avantis still exist....

POSSIBLY one of the Hawks...

NO IDEA on the Lark types 🤔

[Nelson]

I thought you meant howmany records still stand

[mfg]

4 hours ago, Nelson said:

I thought you meant howmany records still stand

Yes Nelson I see what you mean..my question did sound like that...and it really would be interesting to know how many, if any, of Studebaker's 1963 Bonneville speed records still stand!

[Nelson]

I own two of the convertibles.

[mfg]

9 hours ago, Nelson said:

I own two of the convertibles.

Well, as the kids say today,...

THAT'S AWESOME !!!! 😀😀

Did Studebaker take two R3 Daytona convertibles and one R4 engined job to Bonneville?

[Nelson]

Yes, #1 and 2 are both R3 car. Those two I own. There was also a R4 convertible. Serial number 1 convertible was a build mule for the 64 convertible and was actually built on a frame with no X member. I don’t think this car was ever intended to leave Studebaker and sold to the general public. However, in the total confusion at the end, Paxton ended up with the car and sold it. Paxton took advantage of no X member as the car was a little lighter than the sister car. It was equipped with a 3.31 gear as opposed to a 3.07 and was used for the standing start runs. The other car, #2, was used for long range runs and had the 3.07.

[mfg]

1 hour ago, Nelson said:

Yes, #1 and 2 are both R3 car. Those two I own. There was also a R4 convertible. Serial number 1 convertible was a build mule for the 64 convertible and was actually built on a frame with no X member. I don’t think this car was ever intended to leave Studebaker and sold to the general public. However, in the total confusion at the end, Paxton ended up with the car and sold it. Paxton took advantage of no X member as the car was a little lighter than the sister car. It was equipped with a 3.31 gear as opposed to a 3.07 and was used for the standing start runs. The other car, #2, was used for long range runs and had the 3.07.

This forum is GOOD!....

I say that because of all the 'new' information which has been posted lately...I'm sure I'm not the only person who finds this stuff VERY INTERESTING!! 🙂

[mfg]

How about the little six cylinder Stude Commander that topped out at around 102 MPH.....Anyone happen to know if that 'Bonneville' Studebaker still exists?

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[Nelson]

There were two six cylinder cars at Bonneville, #6 and #7. Their engines were assigned a B# just like the R3 and R4’s. Also, their B numbers just happened to fall where they may in the B production sequence.

[mfg]

13 hours ago, Nelson said:

There were two six cylinder cars at Bonneville, #6 and #7. Their engines were assigned a B# just like the R3 and R4’s. Also, their B numbers just happened to fall where they may in the B production sequence.

That's another interesting bit of info...I should have guessed the Granatellis also prepared the six cylinder Stude engines....I'd say their "B" engine numbers confirm that!

Also, I  didn't know Studebaker sent TWO six cylinder cars to Bonneville..but that also makes sense, with one probably being a backup.

 

[brad]

Were the 6 cylinders hopped up like the V8s?

 

Edited February 11, 2023 by brad

[Nelson]

Brad. I don’t think so. I’m sure they were blue printed and probably lose but until someone opens one up it will be a mystery. However, one does exist, we know that.

[mfg]

On 2/11/2023 at 8:01 PM, Nelson said:

Brad. I don’t think so. I’m sure they were blue printed and probably lose but until someone opens one up it will be a mystery. However, one does exist, we know that.

Do you know if that 6 cyl car is in original condition?

(Has it been restored?)

 

 

[Nelson]

I don’t know of any of the cars still in existence. I just know one of the engines still exist and is in storage at the museum.

[1963r2]

[1963r2]

You can't see it very well but it's the R4 convertible.

Pb

[mfg]

Yes, must be the car with the "x" member removed that was mentioned in another thread?

[Nelson]

No, that was the #1 R3 convertible. No X member in that car.

[mfg]

15 hours ago, Nelson said:

No, that was the #1 R3 convertible. No X member in that car.

OK...understood now!

[mfg]

On 2/26/2023 at 7:05 AM, 1963r2 said:

This is quite the photo!!...Complete with Andy Granatelli's signature! 🙂

[Dwight FitzSimons]

On 2/26/2023 at 7:05 AM, 1963r2 said:

Obviously, this car has no X member.  Note how twisted the rear "axle" is relative to the front.

--Dwight

[Nelson]

Exactly what I was thinking😉

I think that photograph is actually one I had signed by Granatelli. Now it pops up in Australia.