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36 minutes ago, mfg said:
Info was printed in Avanti Magazine, Issue # 172… It stated that ‘B9’ was/is the first ‘B’ R3 engine number…. A noted Avanti historian and AOAI board member stated this…….
Don’t shoot the messenger Bob… and, as I’ve told you many times in the past…. substantiate your assertions.
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41 minutes ago, mfg said:
According to the late Al Basile (Avanti Authenticity Guide), Avanti R3 Paxton engine numbers began with ‘B9’…..
Although regnalbob’s statement contradicts this, for now B9 will be accepted as the answer.
29 minutes ago, mfg said:If regnalbob’s info is correct, perhaps ‘B9’ was the first R3 engine used in a production Avanti?
No, B9 is not the accepted answer. If you would take the time to do some research you will find that B9 is not the starting number.
You will also find that B10 is in the first production R3 Avanti, R-5089.
The roster product is in three parts.
First, there is a listing of engines by "B"-number. Every B-engine number that we believe Paxton used, is on this listing. Those numbers run from 1 to 117 plus 153, 299 and 300. The most current information we have on every B engine is shown in one row. There are many blank rows, indicating that the engine has never been found or has not been reported by B number. The data for some engines are very fresh and some is 30 years old. -
12 minutes ago, mfg said:
Yes… B9 was the first Paxton ‘B’ engine number!
No, that is incorrect.
The serial numbers started at B1, however B1, B2, B3 and B4 are not accounted for.
R-1722 has B5
R-5386 has B6
B8 is an R4 and is or was owned by Nelson Bove.
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Serial numbers started with B1.
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23 hours ago, mfg said:
Anyone know if all nine factory production R3 powered ‘64 Studebaker Avantis have been accounted for?
They were all accounted for many years ago.
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17 hours ago, 63stick said:
Hey Bob, I typed you a full story of the circumstances of the R2 and R3, and somewhere when I was finishing up, it vanished. I've looked everywhere. It's floating around out there somewhere. I'm to beat to explain again tonight. I'll try again tomorrow. Long story short, my older brother stole it and the one R2 from storage and there sitting in Tennessee in weeds. Made me sick to my stomach when I saw them.
The R3 was Red, 4 speed, black interior and was purchased in NJ. I assume they were 63s. They all had round headlights. I do remember that the spark plugs had to be changed all the time, because the insulator around the electrode would disintegrate. I was only 10-12 during that time.
Thank you for taking the time to reply.
No 1963 Avantis were factory built with the R3 engine. Your Avanti may have had the R3 installed by the dealer.
I hope you are able to find it. Even though not factory built it is a special Avanti and worth saving.
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2 hours ago, bob caser said:
As far as one of nine 1964 R3 cars one was sold new in New Jersey and from what I recall it was a black car and I think that it was delivered in Vineland, New Jersey.
Bob,
There are two black R3s.
R 5237 Owned by Nelson Bove.
R 5625 I am not sure but I believe it is still owned by Dan Booth.
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14 hours ago, 63stick said:
I guess so, Father ordered all the cars through my uncle.
There were only nine 1964 R3 Avantis that were factory built.
Could you please post the serial number of yours?
Thanks,
Bob Langer
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1 hour ago, Dwight FitzSimons said:
Everything above the "beltline" in a '63 Avanti is Fawn color, regardless of the interior color. The roll bar cover is always Fawn in a '63.
--Dwight
Don't forget the roll bar cover is Black in a 1963 with the 813 BKV all Black interior.
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Makes you wonder why that was done.
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On 2/12/2025 at 9:20 PM, 63stick said:
I have 63R 1086 R2 Two more, another R2 and R3 and 63R 3186 R1. All are the same.
Is your R3 one of the nine factory built R3 Avantis?
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2 hours ago, mfg said:
Misinformation?…. Re-read the answer choices which I posted
On 2/10/2025 at 12:34 PM, mfg said:There were …..?…. ‘87 Avanti convertibles built in South Bend
1) 17…..2) 26…..3) 39….or….4) 54
I did not say there was any misinformation in your post.
Read my post.
If you do not understand the misinformation part of my post I am not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you.
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It is estimated that between 166 & 200 1987 Avantis were built.
The total number of convertibles is estimated to be 44 or 54.
Hopefully John can verify if any of the numbers are correct and put an end to all the misinformation.
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1 hour ago, mfg said:
Speaking of Avantis here.
So?
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Studebakers except the Avanti were delivered to dealers without factory installed floor covering.
The carpet or vinyl was in the trunk with the sill plates and dealer installed.
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The opening in the fiberglass is 1 3/4 inches x 4 5/8 inches.
The bezel is 1 5/8 inches x 4 3/8 inches.
Spacing is 6 1/4 inches.
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4 hours ago, 64studeavanti said:
Answered part of the question. The black paint is easily removed with lacquer thinner. Checked several locations. Am sure it is factory since I was able to get down to primer.
Going with semi gloss unless I hear otherwise.
Avanti trunks were fully carpeted until R 4309 and no black paint was used. After 4309 the carpet on the back wall was eliminated.
It is possible other pieces were eliminated as well and the areas painted black. I want to say flat black but am not 100% sure.
Definitely not gloss.
Maybe someone with a later car can give you a definite answer.
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On 1/18/2025 at 12:32 PM, regnalbob said:
He was a truck driver and was fired.
On 1/18/2025 at 12:46 PM, murph the surf said:Correct on both counts....and discharged for "misappropriation of company property" just a little over a year after the "incident"
18 hours ago, mfg said:Provide evidence of this union man’s “firing” !
17 hours ago, regnalbob said:Thats funny coming from a guy who doesn't provide evidence for anything.
Try reading the Lamberti Papers.
13 hours ago, mfg said:Thank you Murph…. Seeing factual documentation is much fairer to the accused than accepting the word of a man known to be a ‘loose cannon’, seldom backing up his comments.
What is your problem? Murph asked a question and I answered it from the information in the Lamberti Papers.
A question that you were unable to answer.
No need for me to provide any documentation since I did not ask the question.
Why do you find it necessary to make childish comments about me?
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41 minutes ago, mfg said:
Provide evidence of this union man’s “firing” !
Thats funny coming from a guy who doesn't provide evidence for anything.
Try reading the Lamberti Papers.
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He was a truck driver and was fired.
How much is a supercharger setup worth?
in 1963-64 Avanti
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Walt Bottjer owned R-5565.
R2, Powershift, Gray with Claret interior.