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On 12/3/2024 at 1:10 AM, aardvark said:
Hey, AG-R3... Thanks for the site.
So I got curious about mine but found it unlisted as R-2238 serial number.... but I'm confused since the body number is 63R2-1383.
What is the proper designator in my case? Also if it's not there how can I register it?
Your Avanti is listed by the serial number.
R2 R-2238 - (aardvark) - AOAI Forum - Nov 2023
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5 hours ago, mfg said:
I believe that Bob’s confusion stems from the fact that both the #8 and the Due Cento were finished in ‘Avanti Red’.
All I know is that if the Avanti that set the 29 International speed records at Bonneville in ‘62 was later converted into what became the Due Cento, It definitely had a Fawn/Black interior in ‘62.
We musn’t ignore the fact that all these ‘EX’ Avantis had many changes made to them before being sold off!….Ed
You are the one that is confused by the two Red Avantis.
You don't seem to know the difference between EX-2942 and the #8 Avanti.
In the video it is plain to see the production Avanti with the Black interior is the #8 Avanti (63R-1014) and not EX-2942 with the Fawn interior.
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1 hour ago, mfg said:
Gee, I don’t know about that Dwight.. I’ve seen more than one ‘Avanti Gold’ ‘63 Avanti with Fawn/Elk interior and ‘salt ‘n pepper carpeting… I actually owned one!
As far as EX 2942 goes, If that Avanti indeed became the ‘ Due Cento’ in 1963, there is an issue… since in the ‘Bonneville Record Breaker’ color film, the car is clearly shown with a Fawn/ Black interior!
Avanti Red used Black carpet only with the Fawn & Elk interior.
There is no issue, the Avanti with the Black interior is not the Due Cento.
In the film there are 2 Red Avantis, the Due Cento and #8 (63R-1014).
The Due Cento can be seen with the door open and the Fawn door panel. Later a front end shot with the windshield being cleaned shows the lack of a hood ornament and non stock headlights and parking lights. A later shot shows the large mirror mounted on the dash.
The other Avanti is the #8 car with hood ornament, stock lights, antenna, production dash with mirror on windshield and Fawn & Black interior.
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On 12/3/2024 at 2:46 AM, Nelson said:
I think #4
4 hours ago, mfg said:Ha ha! You got it!…. There are a few glimpses of the interior of the Due Cento in the video “Bonneville Record Breaker”.
Nelson is correct, the Due Cento was built with Fawn interior with black carpet.
The shots of the interior are from the #8 Avanti and not the Due Cento.
The interior shot also shows a finished dash with windshield mounted mirror which the Due Cento did not have.
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That is an early quarter scale model.
Here is another version.
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Rear view mirror.
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On 11/17/2024 at 8:49 PM, Brian_RPV said:
My parents were the original owners - it was a 63 with round headlamps, an R1 in Avanti Gold with fawn interior, an automatic transmission, power steering, without air conditioning. It was purchased new in San Diego, California; I don’t have any old papers such as insurance policies, records, etc. I’m looking for advice on how to use the known license plate (when new) to track down the VIN. Perhaps there is no way of obtaining records without being an DMV insider. Any insight is appreciated.
If your parents were members of the AOAI they could be listed in an early AOAI Roster.
Could you post the last name?
Speculation from the above info.
Don B & Kathleen Rearick
63R-1685
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1 hour ago, mfg said:
I was also alerted by the size of that oil pan fitting that it might be installed for more than just a temp sender…. I would think that Greg Cone would have the answer?
No need to contact Greg Cone. The answer is in the following link.
https://aoai.org/forums/topic/4876-dry-r5/
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This is from the SDC Forum on 1-2010. Richard Bennett posted this as part of a reply about the R5.
The R5 engine on the Due Cento was a basic R3 engine with a Bendix Fuel Injection unit that sprayed the fuel into/through the dual superchargers and then into a custom built sheet metal intake manifold which fed into the intake ports of the heads. It ran a Gilmore pulley and belt system to eliminate belt slippage, a special grind camshaft (several different grinders made camshafts for it but nobody remembers which one was used), and a Shiefer magneto ignition. It did not run a dry sump system. The blowers ran the blower fluid through a reserviour and cooler in order to cool the fluid which was needed as they were producing about 20 lbs. of boost.
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21 minutes ago, Nelson said:
I remember reading the same thing just don’t remember where. Maybe Andy’s book?
This is from an article by Richard Bennett.
Bill Dredge was present at the Granatelli shop when the testing was done on the dyno and said that the engine, in his words, produced a whopping 638 HP. Quite an accomplishment for 1963!
Driven by Joe and Andy Granatelli, the Due Cento reached speeds well over 200 mph according to the tach, but was not getting traction due to the wet salt and the best official run was 196.58 mph.
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On 10/16/2024 at 8:19 PM, Nelson said:
Yes, I believe the R5 was a dry sump.
In this photo it appears the R5 has no dry sump.
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1 hour ago, mfg said:
The mention of the Burke Avanti is questionable… as that car went through many racing incarnations (and different engines) over the years… If it indeed was equipped with a dry sump oiling system when it ran with a Studebaker engine I do not know… but I have my doubts.
https://www.enginelabs.com/news/video-studebaker-engine-built-for-top-speed-racing/
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26 minutes ago, Nelson said:
I’m going from foggy memory but I’m pretty certain the R5 was a dry sump. Though I wouldn’t bet my life. As for dry sump blowers I’ve never heard of it on Paxtons of that era. I do know the Bonneville blowers had an external reservoir of about one gallon. Fluid was pumped,via electron pump, out of the reservoir and into the blower where it overflowed to a 3/4 hose at the full level and gravitated back to the storage tank. It’s been awhile since I had the Bonneville blower apart and I can’t remember if oil was pumped through the blower’s own pickup or just into the case. Either way, they tried to maintain the original oil level judging from the position of the drain.
- Ed. Note: (quote Andy Granatelli - Nov 1970) The engine compression was 8:75 ::1. The superchargers were modified with an outside vent between the labyrinth rings. Then, a 2 quart dry sump oiling system with a cooler was fabricated for each supercharger, The coolers were mounted in the area where the parking lights normally went.
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3 hours ago, Dwight FitzSimons said:
My answer is R5 too.
I will argue that, if there are two valid answers to the question, then "R5" is a CORRECT answer. And, Nelson should be awarded the prize.
This is where my critical thinking leads me. Think of Jeopardy.
--Dwight
The R5 used a dry sump only on the superchargers. Each supercharger had a two quart dry sump and an oil cooler.
The Burke Avanti used a dry sump.
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14 hours ago, Dwight FitzSimons said:
So, your Avanti is an automatic?
Yes.
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20 hours ago, mfg said:
Only manual transmission ‘63 Studebaker Avantis were dynomometer tested at South Bend prior to shipment…..True?
False.
The production order for my Avanti has a hand written notation that it was tested on rollers.
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On 8/28/2024 at 12:14 AM, aardvark said:
Now., If this Boys car comes up "For Sale.. add $20k.
ALICE !!
Alice Cooper no longer owns that Avanti.
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5 minutes ago, mfg said:
I feel bad about thinking you’re whacked, when It’s become pretty obvious you’re having trouble understanding questions… probably the onset of dementia.
That all you have is insults.
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10 minutes ago, mfg said:
Whacko!!!!!
When all else fails do what you do best and start the insults.
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According to Dan Booth in the Avanti Magazine Issue 207, page 32 its 1969 Avanti RQA-0637.
Does that quote work for you?
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1 hour ago, mfg said:
QUOTE…..The replacement manual antenna, AC3330R, $25, sticks up about 2” above the top of the quarter panel and can be extended out to 16 1/2” length like the original AC3330…..
This quote is from Dan Booth’s recent antenna article in Avanti Magazine # 207.
regnalbob…. As you seem to enjoy correcting people, perhaps you should take up this question with Mr. Booth?
Dan Booth provided the correct information. He didn't ask the question, you did.
The best part is that you don't even understand your own question.
1 hour ago, mfg said:And regnalbob…. When you quote someone at least try to get the quote right… OK?
Now you are left grasping at straws.
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On 8/28/2024 at 2:21 PM, mfg said:
When fully extended, an original Stude Avanti antenna mast extends to approx …..?…… inches.
1) 14 3/4…..2) 15 1/2…..3) 16 1/2…. or…..4) 17 1/4
5 hours ago, mfg said:The info I posted on Stude Avanti extended antenna length came from an article by Dan Booth at Nostalgic Avanti…..
I do not have an original antenna on my own ‘63, so I can’t take an accurate measurement….. and
According to Dan’s article, answer # 3 would be the correct answer.
From the article Dan Booth states, "the antenna measures 16.5 inches above the rear quarter panel."
That is the retracted length and not the fully extended length in the question.
I have a factory installed antenna and it is 16.5 inches retracted and total length of the mast fully extended is 50.5 inches.
My original answer to the question remains the same, none of the above.
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Could be the ground wires for the rear seat speaker.
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43 minutes ago, mfg said:
When fully extended, an original Stude Avanti antenna mast extends to approx …..?…… inches.
1) 14 3/4…..2) 15 1/2…..3) 16 1/2…. or…..4) 17 1/4
None of the above.
Avanti Radio!
in Avanti Trivia
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From an article by Dan Booth in the Avanti Magazine Issue 207.