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Good answer.Dwight. I'm a Castrol user and won't deviate from the brand. I think going synthetic with it's slickness pretty much eliminates the need for zinc, but then again, I'm not an expert. Still as said, I'm running my V-8's well over 200k miles and many times to the 300k mile point.

Wild... the Shell brand is scientifically blended by Shells Scientists, thus they likely can be trusted... Good Choice. BUT...I have to ask.. If ZDDP is such an ''engine savior'' why then isn't it in ALL Motor Oils? After all, all Oil Companies have a stake in long life engine data. That's why Synthetics have become popular...Longevity. My F-150 now has 300k miles and doesn't smoke or burn oil except the acceptable amount of a 1/2 quart per 5000 miles on standard Castrol Synth. same with my Hummer H2 at 175k miles...And this is not unusual for my vehicles. I change oil every 10-12k ish miles..The advent of synthetics either as a 1/2 1/2 mix or full synth has changed the necessity of oil changes every 3000ish miles. I held to that 3000 mile parameter for decades and then 15 years ago (about 10 years after Mobil1 was introduced) I followed the science and converted my F-150 over slowly to full synth (after 3ish oil changes with a 50/50 mix.).. I'll hold to not messing with an Oil Companies research and chemistry balance. Their Scientists are of a better pay grade than '''any of us''' at deciding what is and is not good in the mix. These discussions are commonplace on ''most any'' Vehicle Forum and everyone comes at their decisions from a different angle. My angle is ''Multiple Vehicles'' running well past the 200k mark. As commonly said... "Your Mileage May Vary!"

I've heard arguments from all sides, but what made the best sense is these Oil Mfgr's have done all the science and chemistry that we as Pikers just don't even have a clue to. STP changes the entire chemistry and viscosity of what the Oil Co has designed and is a crap shoot to much with that. So me personally, I've gone Castrol Synthetics on everything I drive. On V-8's I'm getting 250-350k miles on my daily drivers. One went over the 350k mark. I sold it, and I saw it on the road some 2 years later. Do as You wish, but realize these Oil Mfgr's are pulling out all stops for engine longevity...Wanna mess with the mix... Not Me!

That's what concerns me. This succa is floating around everywhere

Personally I would start with making sure all mechanicals are up and working in a '''''dependable''''' manner. Then the cosmetics can be addressed. Still there needs to be some common sense with the Pricing. At $40k it seems high. but is then a crap shoot to see if the rest of the work needing done can be done at a reasonable price... I'm somehow thinking it will take $10-20K just to get it back to perfection. Yes the Car has only <200 miles on it, but a car that sat these many years is basically a mess to begin with.

I've seen this thing up ''for sale'' now for 4 to 6 months. So is this a scam? Is this car been sitting too long and become crap? I've decided. it likely isn't worth the headaches. You do as You see fit.. I have a '02' with 40k miles.. minimal wear. I wouldn't let it go for less than $60k..in fact I would prefer $65k. Am I out of line in my asking price? Likely so, but there is no rush to sell and the values seem to be increasing. Add to that the rarity and lack of ANY of these coming up ''For Sale''. So I'll hold to my (fictional) asking price.

Thanks Ron. Looking forward to final results.

RonManfred This question was out before You likely purchased Your car. Would You like to Chime In on the topic? I do know from Ron how many were made in Jade Green, but am unsure about the Convertible Numbers of the '02' year.

A Helene Hurricane Update. I thought it prudent to give You all an update. So, it's been 2 months and now it's Winter. We still have families living in tents and sheds. The Gov't is as useless as ''tits on a boar hog''. Despite their actions (or lack thereof) things are getting slowly better. It is hoped that the New Administration will release sufficient funds to help families and businesses get back up and running. But it has been more than 2 months... actually 3 since all Hell broke lose. I-40 which is our most traveled freeway and goes from Asheville to Knoxville was wiped out. About a week ago another lane of that freeway collapsed. There is no good way to go West out of our area''''2 Steps Forward.. 1 Step back.'''' For my area...The roads have been mostly repaired. Blacktop was installed but they still have a LOT of patchwork to be done. A LOT of Bridges are still out. So our roads are totally drivable now. I can't complain about that since I really didn't expect good roads until late Spring. The Waterways are a total disaster. Uprooted trees and the rivers actually changed directions. Many homes destroyed and they are bulldozing em all down. So I'll keep my cars Mothballed for the Winter Season.

I (ass)ume it's the bottom one that is re-dyed. I'll let Ron tell us though. The differences are very subtle. Photos and postings don't really show true reality, but the bottom pix is more reddish.

Great job.

I'm Cheerleading for ya. Under my own 2002 model there was no build sheet. It has been thru at least 4 owners.

A day late but merry CHRISTmas and a Happy New Year.

Well, that's great,, Dude. John Hull had contacted me about my '02' stating there were 33 made that year. I read His book and the last pages give loose numbers but weren't specific on our models. so I tried contacting Him and that's when He told me of my years production numbers. If You want / need a serial number, let me know. When will You be sharing Your info? .................... Side note.. If I owned a Mustang or Camaro, all numbers are available and all options are accessible thry the Vin #.., On our cars, there is little to go on on even the Production Numbers, let alone the options installed on the cars, I don't know how to run the numbers on the VIN to tell me anything. As noted, John gave me my years Production Numbers (33) . With only that many made, I would suspect SOMEONE should have the other info, but Who?? I understand the ''big shake up'' that happened when the Company went defunct, so it makes some sense on why info is sparse, but still there needs to be SOMEONE ALIVE who has retained more info than we are given. I really hope You have success in this. The values and rarities of these cars sorta hangs on the figures. I'm setting a perceived value on mine at somewhere around $60ish K.. It's based on the few sales records I've found.

Ron. If you want info... please e-mail me at ...lakedesign.dan@mac.com ... Thanks for the contact Ron. This was my concern from the get-go. Your not the first here to try and accumulate numbers and data. I hope You have success in this but I have my doubts.

John ought to have some records on this.. I own a '02' a, green convertible and will join in as I see how this goes.

Hey, I just found my car registered but to the last owner (name not given) R2238 is registered in Sebring Florida via Hemmings in 2022. Hemmings is where I found the Car. Then I bought t and moved it North the West NC.

Reg. and Skip Thanks for the Info. My e-mail has been down for 5 days now but i plan on registering.

Need pix's.

Hey, AG-R3... Thanks for the site. So I got curious about mine but found it unlisted as R-2238 serial number.... but I'm confused since the body number is 63R2-1383. What is the proper designator in my case? Also if it's not there how can I register it?

Interesting ...mox I'm hearing the same from those who seem to know the source.. Supposedly from ''62ish'' and in the Studie Museum..

I wish someone would have captured a few Photos.

Thanks for the feedback Guys. I was thinking there was no interest in this. It seems to have round headlights..thus a '63'. !?!? I had this in my Photo File well before (2013) I ever bought (2022) or had interest in owning an Avanti. It struck me as strange that I had it. I do on occasion download Pix's of unique design items since I'm technically a Designer / Architect. This must have subliminally caught my eye. Glad it did. ... I'm thinking of blowing up the Pix for my Office Wall, along with some other Design Drawings I have hanging in there.

Thought I'd share. I don't know the origin of this Pix.

Well it seems obvious that all of the above loosely constitute the Car being a 4 passenger... In other words, there are many factors to indicate the use. justIf nothing else just having the 3 seats seem the biggest indicator of it's use. The cup holders are just a added feature to the seating.. So I humbly disagree with the conclusion.