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I did … The letter I’m quoting was written earlier than the document which you posted…. which indicates the Company changed its mind?? On the other hand, Mr. Minkel’s title with Studebaker is ‘President’ in the earlier letter, while Mr. Challinor’s title is ‘ V.P. and GM of the parts & service division. I would think Mr. Minkel’s letter would hold sway over Mr. Challinor’s ….(My opinion)….Ed Also… The earlier (Minkel’s) letter was sent out to all Studebaker Dealers)

My '71 Avanti II (RQB-1659)

I suggest that you look at the dates on the letters.

It had to be a difficult time for Studebaker Corporation during the summer of 1963…. The idea of calling unsold Avanti automobiles, originally built and considered 1963 models 1964’s after a certain date, seems highly unusual to me!…. More on this oddity in the AVANTI TRIVIA section.

Studebaker Corporation, in 1963, apparently issued two different ‘start’ dates for unsold 1963 models to be titled as 1964 models…. The dates are 9/1/63 and 10/1/63….The jury is out, and I’m asking Ron to check into this.

Please read the above letter which I quoted from… it indicates 10/1/63 as the model year change date… Also, I suggested Ron contact Mr. Krem for a ruling here…Ed

Ron….I see the one month discrepancy between the two letters…. suggest you contact Mr. George Krem for his opinion concerning this….Ed

No need to be sorry, MFG. Regnalbob is a winner with 9/1/63 as that matches the document I referenced.

Check your AOAI Magazine Issue #60, page 15….A letter issued by Lewis Minkel of the Studebaker Corporation, and reprinted by noted Studebaker/Avanti expert George Krem, reads…..(QUOTE) ”Effective October 1, 1963, and until further notice, all new and unused Avanti models, when first sold at retail and licensed or titled after the October 1, 1963 date, will carry the registration year designation year 1964.” The above referenced document, originally issued in 1963 by Studebaker Corporation, indicates (to me anyway) that the correct answer to this trivia question is 10/1/63…. Ed

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September 1, 1963. Sorry MFG, but the reprint of a Studebaker document that I have indicates September 1, 1963.

I believe R5642 did have an all ‘Metallic Red Vinyl’ interior… but that discontinued color was special ordered… a personal preference of the original purchaser of the car.

Been looking at them. A bit confusing but thx for the tip! Skip= keep me posted pls

I don’t think the red vinyl was ever discontinued? Wasn’t 5642 white with red vinyl for instance?

Sorry psdenno, but the reprint of a Studebaker document which I have indicates a date which isn’t mentioned above.

This is relevant, however, not the reason that the date of 10/1/63 is truly important in the story of the Avanti. Any other thoughts concerning this date?

Hi Brad thanks for your input.... "You could put a nut on it before you installed the end cap", ought to have read "Should Have" 😁- I feel silly missing this. now. Nutsert sounds like a good idea but there's a fairly large hole there already- I will check it just the same, thanks. Coincidentally, just yesterday somebody has put up a post on the Avanti II Owners facebook platform, a commentary of his completed HT installation- and it features a picture of this same area WITHOUT a captive nut there. with another picture showing a nut welded into place later. As Elmer Fudd said: " There's something scwewey going on here!"

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01/05/64

Four White, Red, Silver Metallic & Dark Blue Metallic

Avanti Red paint discontinued and replaced with Avanti Maroon. Metallic Red Vinyl discontinued and replaced with Claret Red Vinyl.

Studebaker stated all Avantis sold after what date should be registered as 1964 models. 9/1/63 10/15/63 10/30/63 1/5/64

You could put a nut on it before you installed the end cap. Or, you can install a nutsert threaded insert after the fact.