mfg Posted July 3, 2017 Report Posted July 3, 2017 In the 1968 HRM special magazine 'The complete book of engine swapping', a 1964 Avanti had its R4 engine replaced with a 455 Olds.....True?
r1lark Posted July 4, 2017 Report Posted July 4, 2017 True, And the same magazine I think had a 'hemi-into-a-Lark' swap too, which is way cooler than a Olds into and Avanti in my opinion! IIRC, 'Tex' Smith wrote that swap book - always enjoyed his articles.
mfg Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Posted July 4, 2017 11 hours ago, r1lark said: True, And the same magazine I think had a 'hemi-into-a-Lark' swap too, which is way cooler than a Olds into and Avanti in my opinion! IIRC, 'Tex' Smith wrote that swap book - always enjoyed his articles. Sorry, the answer here is FALSE!........... (was/is a great book though!)
r1lark Posted July 4, 2017 Report Posted July 4, 2017 4 hours ago, mfg said: Sorry, the answer here is FALSE!........... (was/is a great book though!) Well, guess my memory is gone now that I hit 60! Wasn't there a book that had a Olds-into-Avanti swap?
mfg Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Posted July 4, 2017 25 minutes ago, r1lark said: Well, guess my memory is gone now that I hit 60! Wasn't there a book that had a Olds-into-Avanti swap? Yep!...and that's the book!
r1lark Posted July 4, 2017 Report Posted July 4, 2017 Then............why is the answer FALSE? Was it not a R4 that was replaced?
64studeavanti Posted July 4, 2017 Report Posted July 4, 2017 I believe that there was only one factory r4 - a daytona.
64studeavanti Posted July 4, 2017 Report Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Apparently there was an article in Petersens that showed a swap of the olds into an Avanti that had r4. I quess the reason for false is it was not HRM. Edited July 4, 2017 by 64studeavanti Can't spell
r1lark Posted July 4, 2017 Report Posted July 4, 2017 1 hour ago, 64studeavanti said: Apparently there was an article in Petersens that showed a swap of the olds into an Avanti that had r4. I quess the reason for false is it was not HRM. Petersen Publishing Company was the publisher of Hot Rod Magazine. The names were used almost interchangeably in the '60s and '70s on their specialty editions. Here is what is supposed to be the cover of the '68 book:
mfg Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Posted July 4, 2017 2 hours ago, r1lark said: Then............why is the answer FALSE? Was it not a R4 that was replaced? And the reason the answer to this question is false IS.................... ....(drum role please).................... The Olds 455 was swapped into a 1963 Studebaker Avanti, NOT a 1964!! ................(it's not easy being me!)
r1lark Posted July 4, 2017 Report Posted July 4, 2017 28 minutes ago, mfg said: And the reason the answer to this question is false IS.................... ....(drum role please).................... The Olds 455 was swapped into a 1963 Studebaker Avanti, NOT a 1964!! ................(it's not easy being me!) GROAN........................................... Got me there Ed!
scottgriggs Posted July 11, 2017 Report Posted July 11, 2017 I think I remember reading about this car/swap in an old AOA magazine article.
lschuc Posted July 24, 2017 Report Posted July 24, 2017 Scott and R1Lark..... You're correct. Photos were reprinted on page 48 of Avanti Magazine Issue 128 Fall/Winter 2004. They were reprinted from the Petersen Publishing Complete Books of Engine Swapping. And someone did indeed removed an R4 engine from a 1963 Avanti and replace it with an Oldsmobile 455. Of course, no Avanti came from the factory with a dual four-barrel R4 engine, but this was Southern California, and the Avanti owner most likely bought the R4 engine from Granatelli's Paxton Products. I'm guessing that something broke inside the R4 engine, and that is the reason it got replaced with the 455. Any guesses who the man is that's leaning on the passenger side fender? this magazine is now available as either a digital version or you can order a bound, printed copy from the magazine page of the AOAI webisite: http://www.aoai.org/magazine/ Wonder where this car is today?
mfg Posted December 24, 2018 Author Report Posted December 24, 2018 I wonder how many folks nowadays, if they happened upon a '63-'64 Studebaker Avanti with an R4 under its hood, would consider swapping it out for an Oldsmobile (or any other engine??) Methinks NONE!!
lschuc Posted December 25, 2018 Report Posted December 25, 2018 So, what ever happened to the R4 engine that was removed and sitting on the floor next to the car in the above book?
StudeNorm Posted December 31, 2018 Report Posted December 31, 2018 On 24/12/2018 at 3:46 PM, mfg said: I wonder how many folks nowadays, if they happened upon a '63-'64 Studebaker Avanti with an R4 under its hood, would consider swapping it out for an Oldsmobile (or any other engine??) Methinks NONE!! Methinks you are correct....
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