Build sheet location?

[Hogtrough]

I know many 60's cars had a build sheet left somewhere on the car at the factory in locations like under the rear seat springs. How about Avanti? Did Studebaker put a build sheet anywhere on the car?

[mfg]

6 minutes ago, Hogtrough said:

I know many 60's cars had a build sheet left somewhere on the car at the factory in locations like under the rear seat springs. How about Avanti? Did Studebaker put a build sheet anywhere on the car?

No build sheet in car… however, production order for most every Studebaker passenger car built after WW 2 is available from Stude National Museum.

[Mark L]

One of our local SDC chapter members is selling a 1961 Lark Cruiser. He said he found a copy of the build sheet tucked up into the dashboard near the glove box. It certainly looks like it was in the car for quite a few years.

[mfg]

2 hours ago, Mark L said:

One of our local SDC chapter members is selling a 1961 Lark Cruiser. He said he found a copy of the build sheet tucked up into the dashboard near the glove box. It certainly looks like it was in the car for quite a few years.

It’s probably a copy of the production order.. it’s possible that it was left in the car at the factory.. however, that would be very unusual!

[mfg]

The only major i.d.’s on a post WW2 Stude, beside the serial & body number plates, would be a paper tag glued to bottom of glove box with the exterior paint color code.

[Nelson]

I’ve found production orders in Studes under the carpet, seats, console and glovebox but I’ve never found one in an Avanti.

[mfg]

58 minutes ago, Nelson said:

I’ve found production orders in Studes under the carpet, seats, console and glovebox but I’ve never found one in an Avanti.

Years ago, when original style PO’s were sold by Newman Altman, they came with several ‘carbon paper’ type duplicates … I can understand how, back in the day, an occasional copy might be tossed under the carpet at the factory.. however, I don’t believe it was a normal practice.

(at least not compared to build sheets that can normally be found entwined into the rear seat cushion springs in Mopars)

Edited February 11 by mfg
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[regnalbob]

Studebakers except the Avanti were delivered to dealers without factory installed floor covering.

The carpet or vinyl was in the trunk with the sill plates and dealer installed.

[mfg]

36 minutes ago, regnalbob said:

Studebakers except the Avanti were delivered to dealers without factory installed floor covering.

The carpet or vinyl was in the trunk with the sill plates and dealer installed.

Speaking of Avantis here.

[regnalbob]

1 hour ago, mfg said:

Speaking of Avantis here.

So?

[mfg]

33 minutes ago, regnalbob said:

So?

Re-read original question

[Mark L]

Regarding my response in post 3 above, this is a photograph of the production order that was found in the dashboard of our chapter member's 1961 Cruiser.  In the bottom center it says "Production Order - Body Set".  In the bottom right corner, it says "Instrument Panel Copy".  This does not specifically answer the question in post 1 above.

 

Edited February 12 by Mark L

[mfg]

36 minutes ago, Mark L said:

Regarding my response in post 3 above, this is a photograph of the production order that was found in the dashboard of our chapter member's 1961 Cruiser.  In the bottom center it says "Production Order - Body Set".  In the bottom right corner, it says "Instrument Panel Copy".  This does not specifically answer the question in post 1 above.

 

Hmmm!…. I find this very interesting… Maybe I should have looked closer under Studebaker dashboards!!!

[Nelson]

Bob. I never heard Studes were delivered without floor covering?  I know seat belts were in the trunk in 1964. Are you sure you don’t have that crossed up? The carpets were installed with twist type nails to get a nice fit. The tool would have been air powered I would think.

 

[Nelson]

I imagine a build order sheet was in the car as it traveled the assembly line so the proper equipment could be installed. 

[mfg]

24 minutes ago, Nelson said:

Bob. I never heard Studes were delivered without floor covering?  I know seat belts were in the trunk in 1964. Are you sure you don’t have that crossed up? The carpets were installed with twist type nails to get a nice fit. The tool would have been air powered I would think.

 

I’ve wondered how much attention was paid to the occasional ‘streamer’ attached to a body tag screw….With the streamer, body tag, and firewall all painted the same color, and the bodies moving along on an assembly line,I’m sort of surprised those occasional steamer tags were noticed at all!

Did the  ‘64 R3 Commander sedan have a streamer? With all of its special equipment one would think it would have!

[Nelson]

23 hours ago, mfg said:

I’ve wondered how much attention was paid to the occasional ‘streamer’ attached to a body tag screw….With the streamer, body tag, and firewall all painted the same color, and the bodies moving along on an assembly line,I’m sort of surprised those occasional steamer tags were noticed at all!

Did the  ‘64 R3 Commander sedan have a streamer? With all of its special equipment one would think it would have!

No. It may have a 4 speed tag but I don’t think it does. It was a 259 three speed car (?) pulled from the assembly line and moved to engineering for installation of the R3 package. I imagine the car was pretty near completed when it was pulled. I know convertibles started life as a hard top then went to another area where the roof was cut off and convertible components added. I would think that would be Pre frame but i am uncertain of that.

[mfg]

59 minutes ago, Nelson said:

No. It may have a 4 speed tag but I don’t think it does. It was a 259 three speed car (?) pulled from the assembly line and moved to engineering for installation of the R3 package. I imagine the car was pretty near completed when it was pulled. I know convertibles started life as a hard top then went to another area where the roof was cut off and convertible components added. I would think that would be Pre frame but i am uncertain of that.

I would love to have been a ‘fly on the wall’ watching THAT conversion!!

[Mark L]

On 2/12/2025 at 1:30 PM, Nelson said:

I imagine a build order sheet was in the car as it traveled the assembly line so the proper equipment could be installed. 

Yes. My father worked in the auto assembly building in South Bend. He was in the Production Control department. One of his duties was to collect copies of the production orders as the cars came down the assembly line and turn them in so they could be filed.

[mfg]

17 hours ago, Mark L said:

Yes. My father worked in the auto assembly building in South Bend. He was in the Production Control department. One of his duties was to collect copies of the production orders as the cars came down the assembly line and turn them in so they could be filed.

And the many present day Studebaker and Studebaker Avanti owners who have been able to obtain a copy of the PO for their cars really appreciate the work your father did!