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  1. Is there a way to clean up the mess left by this trivia discussion? Or at least sort the important from the trivial?

    dapy, what's trivial to one person may not be so trivial to the next. Once again, I suggest that you do not open the 'trivia' threads.

  2. No dyno testing. If so, it would have been recorded on the forms that accompany the new car. This was a media marketing ploy and a more valid description would be confirming. Two things...in a mass production assembly line they would not take the time to do a dyno test, and what would Studebaker do with a failure? And of course I was there.

    My comments are to show how frivolous these TRIVIA questions are. Let's get serious and not waste people's minds.

    Although it may not seem likely, Studebaker was still spending money on new car development right up to the point of the plug being pulled and production shut down. For example, an expensive 'shaker' machine was ordered to evaluate the chassis components of new Studebakers...but it was canceled before delivery when the South Bend operation was closed. It ended up being purchased by the Ford Motor Company. There really is no doubt that Studebaker had at least one chassis dyno. And 'dapy' if the trivia posts bother you, why don't you simply skip over them?

  3. Were they actually dyno'd or put on something like a Sun tester to make sure it was tuned properly? A dyno is a very expensive piece of equipment and with Studebaker's precarious financial state at the time it doesn't seem like they would have invested in one.

    At that time car makers that had dyno's ran the engines on stands and without accessories for gross horsepower ratings, not in the assembled vehicle.

    I'm doing this from memory, and my brain cells aren't getting any younger, but that picture in 'Car Life' I referred to showed that particular Avanti 'nose down' with its rear wheels elevated and rolling on a dynomometer machine.... and once again, they called it a 'Dyno'.

  4. The parts book shows only one for all cars, so any changes must have carried the same part number and mixed in production...maybe from a second vendor? Somehow that reminds me of GM with their ignition lock debacle causing them so much legal grief right now...though a different steering wheel medallion isn't safety related.

    Could be. All I know is that these 'larger print' medallions were offered for sale for several years from places like SI. They are most probably NLA now.

  5. Well, I'd have to say that the correct answer is 'TRUE'....Here's why....according to the several page 1963 'CAR LIFE' magazine article on Studebaker, all new Avantis were dynoed at the end of the assembly line. I remember that they actually showed a picture of one (an R2) with it's hood up on that dyno.

  6. Well, in this case, I believe the answer is TRUE...Here's what I mean....The medallion we all know was used on the bulk, possibly all, of Studebaker Avantis that were built...but Studebaker also produced, in quantity, a revised steering wheel medallion with much larger 'STUDEBAKER CORPORATION' lettering, and offered these medallions as replacements. I have one of these on my own '63.

  7. The hood brace was eliminated as it interfered with the air box. The right inner fender was cut for the air hose to be routed to the radiator scoop area where the filter was relocated. There were also different front coil and rear leaf springs as well as different upper control arms.

    All true Gunslinger......but one VERY apparent one is still missing from this list of differences. (the right skirt cutout was one of my missing two by the way)

  8. Yes...photos of prototypes showed a steering wheel center with the same large "S" as the hood and sail panels had. AFAIK, these were not used on production cars.

    Your answer isn't a correct response to the stated question....although I understand your point about the prototype "S'" steering wheel medallion. (key word 'produced' as 'in quantity')

  9. 1. lower motor mounts

    2. longer slots in the body for the front bumper brackets (body is raised)

    3. more body shims to raise body (body is raised)

    4. solid front suspension bushings

    5. flanged axles in the rear end

    All good answers (correct) And I'm looking for two more very apparent ones...can you come up with them?

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