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If anyone with a Studebaker Avanti is contemplating making this master cylinder change, let me know if you are unclear about the hydraulic brake line routing....Ed
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1 minute ago, Nelson said:
Back on brakes. Thanks for the input on check valves. I assumed that deletion of the check valve would be on all disc front drum rear cars that’s why I specified the disc brake version when ordering. Now I know. I wonder if the MC I took off was for a full drum car?
Your welcome Nelson...Sorry about the diversion, but it's irritating when a certain member will only post when he feels the opportunity to correct me. (and yes, I do make mistakes)... He has been at this for quite some time.
I have blocked him (again) and If he desires to pester someone else... best of luck to them!
The split brake master cylinder, set up properly, is a positive safety improvement over the original Stude Avanti single piston master cylinder...and the mid seventies Mopar cylinder has worked very well, for many years, in my '63.
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6 hours ago, aardvark said:
Your perspective of my pants is not needed or even sensical... First off it's all '''off topic'''.
Nothing of value is being gained and especially under this topics diversions into childish bashing.
Yo Mama's Calling, go home before thew street lights come on.
I'm out.
Don't let the door hit you in the butt !
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6 hours ago, aardvark said:
I'm just after answers... not quibbling.
Whoops!... time to put your big boy pants on son...sometimes we get a bit rowdy on this forum!!!
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38 minutes ago, Nelson said:
The master cylinder came today and cosmetically it was dead on. I measured the new one and from the mounting face to the piston in the bore measured 1 1/4 inch which is the same as a Stude master cylinder. The one that was on the car measured substantially less. I have a feeling it wasn’t ever working correctly. This new one is an early 70’s Chrysler with disc brakes. We ordered the disc version thinking maybe it wouldn’t have a check valve. I didn’t take it apart to see. Does anybody know if it has a check valve and if so should I remove it?? I think the bore was the same on the new as the one I took off. I will double check it tomorrow.
Ther should not be a residual valve in it, as by the early seventies disc brakes were standard on Road Runners.
(disc/drum as on Stude Avantis)
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1 hour ago, regnalbob said:
You still didn't answer my question. I have to laugh when you threaten to block me. If it makes you happy block me.
Yet another post you edited after crying about the SDC Forum & Studebaker Drivers Club.
Have a nice day Bob!
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54 minutes ago, 64studeavanti said:
Actually, boosters for hemi equipped cars are larger. They are 8 3/4", similar to our Avantis, as opposed to the smaller 8" non-hemi Mopar. The hemi equipped cars have an offset bracket etc. to clear the heads.
Okay thanks...I guess I had it backwards....Next time I see my friends Daytona I'll take a closer look.
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1 hour ago, 64studeavanti said:
Sorry I was not clear. There have been some conflicting information about whether B body Mopar brake boosters are a replacement for the Stude ones. In the trivia section, it was stated that the "hemi" equipped cars used the same 8 3/4" brake booster. This booster, like Avanti boosters, are hard to come by. In a later post on this forum, it was claimed that the readily available 8" Mopar booster works. Most of the posts on the Mopar forums indicate that the hemi boosters are not interchangeable with other mopars and versa visa.
Just trying to find out if the readily available B body 8" Mopar boosters work on Avantis.
Yes.... brake booster on factory Hemi Mopars is indeed smaller due to those oversize heads...Bob was confused about that.
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When dealing with a vehicle restoration needing 'everything' as I'm presently doing on a 1956 Studebaker Golden Hawk, I find that doing one small project at a time, even something as trivial as refinishing bumper back bars, is actually quite rewarding...and eventually these small daily projects add up, making the eventual complete reassembly of the vehicle easier.
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1 hour ago, regnalbob said:
Why did you edit your post?
You told me to stop pestering you and go back to the SDC Forum which is a better 'fit' for me.
How was I pestering you? You made a statement and I replied.
Bob......do I need to block you again? If you're happier on the Studebaker Forum, by all means go there!
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3 hours ago, 64studeavanti said:
So master cylinder is good. What about booster?
The stock Studebaker Avanti brake booster, as long as it's in good condition, works just fine with the Chrysler master cylinder.
The master cylinder is activated by a pushrod which protrudes from the front of the brake booster...the pushrod is adjustable...and if I remember correctly, it had to be adjusted slightly to give correct pushrod 'travel' with the Chrysler master.
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14 minutes ago, 64studeavanti said:
Here is a link to previous discussions:
https://aoai.org/forums/topic/43007-wanted-avanti-brake-booster-1963-1971/#comment-126070
If you order a dual brake master cylinder for a '74 Dodge Coronet you will be happy!
I installed one on my '63 Stude Avanti approx 20 years ago, it's still working well, and brake performance could not be better (without updating the disc brakes themselves.)
Anyone still using the factory single piston master cylinder, on anything other than a seldom driven show car, is putting themselves and their Avanti at unnecessary risk
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18 hours ago, regnalbob said:
Try doing some research
Have a nice day Bob!
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3 hours ago, regnalbob said:
They are not exactly the same.
The Dodge is 8 inches in diameter,
The Avanti is 8 3/4 inches in diameter.
You are no doubt speaking of another Mopar brake booster..Nice try though Bobby!
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46 minutes ago, Nelson said:
I ordered the master cylinder for a 71 Roadrunner.. it looked exactly like the one on the car. We’ll see how it works out.
Thanks.
Yes, most all those 'B' body Mopars used similar brake master cylinders
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As a side note..a Mopar friend of Mine's eyes popped out when he saw the factory brake booster on my '63 Avanti....It's exactly the same as the one Chrysler used on his '69 Dodge Daytona. which he thought was an extremely rare unit!
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I run a '74 Dodge Coronet dual master on my '63 Avanti..Same four bolt mount as Stude...probably close to what's on your Avanti now.
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7 hours ago, brad said:
They were listed as 1750 stall whereas, Avantis are 2500 ish. I have had Avanti converters made for 3000 rpm stall.
OK.. makes sense!
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9 hours ago, DON GURY said:
Thank you for all your help. Cannot find the color code anywhere. Looks like the going to a paint supply house.
I have no idea what those special color formula cameras cost nowadays...but when they first came out (many years ago) I heard they cost $10,000 each!
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If that doesn't work, take your Avanti to a reputable auto body supply company.....Most have special cameras that can be laid onto paint surface, take photo, then formulate a paint formula for that color....
A free service if you purchase the paint there!
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I know one thing for sure Peter...the fit of the deck lid with gasket and without gasket are two entirely different things!
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13 minutes ago, A83 said:
I found a loose speedometer ground wire after I changed out the gauge light bulbs. Can I ground it to the bracket that holds the speedometer gauge in or does it need to go somewhere else? I think the bracket just rests against the fiberglass dash so not sure if that is a good ground? The gauge light works.
Please help the unknowing ( smile)
Thanks
A83
I'd ground to horizontal dash brace... possibly under one of the nuts supporting steering column.
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5 hours ago, silverstude said:
Serial Number?
R5641
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2 hours ago, brad said:
Fuel drains, also the hard lines for fuel and vacuum are hard plumbed without the need for rubber seals.
Yes exactly!.....In general use, rubber grommets with steel fuel lines passing through them can degrade with time...The '57 GH fuel delivery setup was pretty much 'bullet proof'!
PS...As an economy measure, Studrbaker went to the 'grommet' setup on the 1958 Golden & Packard Hawks.
Dual master cylinder on a 63 Avanti
in 1963-64 Avanti
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Your welcome!