Avanti Values?

[Bob Preston]

Thank you. 

[Bob Preston]

63R-3080, a 1963 R2 with a GM automatic transmission just sold at auction for a hair under $45K. It had undergone a refurbishment in 2007-8 that included an engine rebuild. 

[Bob Preston]

The sale price for R-3080 was revised to $41,888 as of this morning. Below are two screenshots that show average sale prices for R1’s and R2’s. 

[Bob Preston]

Below are more 5-year sales charts for a random selection of classic cars. FWIW: I’ve also included a 5-year chart for a S&P 500 index fund. 

[aardvark]

There are a few options in the "For Sale" section that I found interesting..

Take a look , Friends.

[Bob Preston]

There’s a similar discussion going on on another manufacturer forum. It’s more about the current market and I’d say that the market is similar for all 60’s “muscle cars” in general. 
 

One point mentioned was demographics.  Many owners of cars from the 60’s were teenagers back then and are now in their 70’s and 80’s. They probably have one or more cars already and given their age aren’t in the market for another. The speculation was that younger folks with disposable income, looking to buy a vintage car might be in the market for cars from the 70’s-90’s. 
 

Another point was that a large percentage of owners have made their cars trailer queens and they’re only seen at car shows, if that. The idea here was to leave a few concourse points off the renovation and take the thing out so people can see it. 
 

One more thought was that people see a 1965 Fill in the Blank sell at Mecum for $100,000, so they’re all worth $100,000. 
This is along the lines of sellers believing they have a car that is one number higher than the actual condition would indicate  

The person who opened the discussion had his car listed for months, with little to no action. He lowered the price as well as stating that it was also OBO. One complication with OBO is that the seller has to actually commit to selling it for the best offer. If it’s listed for $30K but he won’t sell for an offer of $25K even though that is the best offer received, it isn’t really for sale for the best offer. It’s for sale for a price that’s fixed in his head and he’ll wait until that offer appears. 
 

 

[aardvark]

^ Sir.. I opened the discussion and am selling nothing.

Edited 8 hours ago by aardvark

[Bob Preston]

3 hours ago, aardvark said:

 

^ Sir.. I opened the discussion and am selling nothing

 

The post wasn’t about you. 

[aardvark]

Read para 5

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Read paragraph 1.

[Bob Preston]

16 minutes ago, aardvark said:

Read para 5

I wrote it.

The entire post was about information that I read on another forum (see paragraph 1). I felt the information was relevant to this discussion so I shared some of what was said on that forum.
 

Is that clear?

[mfg]

4 minutes ago, Bob Preston said:

I wrote it.

The entire post was about information that I read on another forum (see paragraph 1). I felt the information was relevant to this discussion so I shared some of what was said on that forum.
 

Is that clear?

Please do not take offense… but you two have beaten this ‘Avanti Valuation’ subject to death…

How about moving on and starting some other topic concerning your cars?

Yes, I know I don’t have to look at this thread, but I normally check out posts to see if there are any new thoughts… This thread is now pretty much reduced to bickering.

 

[Bob Preston]

Recently, I’ve seen a few price reductions on Avanti’s that have been on the market for quite awhile. The one I looked at last October in Ohio has dropped $5K from $54,900 to $49,900. At the time the seller said there was no room for negotiations because he didn’t want to sell the car. 
 

An R1 that I’d inquired about just dropped from $43K to $39K. This isn’t unusual, since a seller typically wants to get as much as possible and a buyer isn’t likely to offer more than the asking price, so starting a high, but reasonable price is to be expected. 
 

I do believe that there’s some spaghetti being thrown at the wall and this could be driven by the possibility that the sellers saw a single car sell for a handsome price and they’ve priced theirs similarly. As an example, the seller of the one in Connecticut specifically mentioned one that had sold for $57K and his is priced at $58K, even though the car most recently sold for $37,500 and is a $45K-$48K car at best. 
 

He has a multi-million dollar car collection and a $50K car is little more than a rounding error in the big picture, but his asking price is preventing car from being sold, driven and seen.