Lincv8 Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 An 04 listed on Hemmings with 137 miles. Anybody have any opinions on it? Would love to hear some thoughts. I'm interested in it but leery of 21 year old new car and dont know if price is fair. I bought a new 90 4 dr in 92, had no issues.
Randy Atkin Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 It's actually a 2005 Avanti converted from a 2004 Mustang. If you want a 2005 you have few choices as I believe only 6 or 8 were produced and this one would likely have the fewest miles of all. Yes, there will be issues due to age and this one was in Kuwait so it may have been subjected to very high weather temperatures while not being used. If you look carefully you will see lots of shrunk vinyl in the interior indicative of hot weather which might be not repairable short of replacement. Also it could suffer from coagulated and dried up old fuel in the tank and lines causing fuel starvation and corrosion in the tank, stuck fuel gauge sender, damaged fuel pump, etc. These are just a sampling of what might need attention. So yes it's a beauty but be prepared to do some work on it. I suppose the price is OK considering mileage and rarity. I think it started out at $50,000 on ebay. It's been for sale for several months. Hope this helps you in making a decision.
aardvark Posted January 10 Report Posted January 10 (edited) I've seen this thing up ''for sale'' now for 4 to 6 months. So is this a scam? Is this car been sitting too long and become crap? I've decided. it likely isn't worth the headaches. You do as You see fit.. I have a '02' with 40k miles.. minimal wear. I wouldn't let it go for less than $60k..in fact I would prefer $65k. Am I out of line in my asking price? Likely so, but there is no rush to sell and the values seem to be increasing. Add to that the rarity and lack of ANY of these coming up ''For Sale''. So I'll hold to my (fictional) asking price. Edited January 11 by aardvark
ronmanfredi Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 The seller is into the car for right at $40K. He's been offered as much as $36K and turned it down. It's been listed in 4 places for $50K and $40K. It's been on GCC Auction where the high bid was $25K with a reserve of $40K, and on Hemmings where the current high bid is $33K. Next Sunday, 1/19, it's up on Mecum Kissimmee auction with a reserve, I'm betting is $40K. It was the #3 car made/shipped on the SN95 Mustang chassis in Desert Coral color. Mr J Hull from Avanti motors at the time remembered shipping it to Kuwait to a car collector back in 2004. Late 2004-2005s car were built on the SN95 Mustang chassis and then Ford discontinued the car and introduced the S197 model, which Avanti used until it closed in 2007. The SN95 car is the smallest Avanti ever made, has a nose heavy look, which the donor car has. It had a unique front end look due to that as well.
ronmanfredi Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 On 1/10/2025 at 12:32 PM, Lincv8 said: An 04 listed on Hemmings with 137 miles. Anybody have any opinions on it? Would love to hear some thoughts. I'm interested in it but leery of 21 year old new car and dont know if price is fair. I bought a new 90 4 dr in 92, had no issues. The main thing that I have seen in the photos of this car is the leather on the passenger side of the dash and both door panels coming loose. I'm sure the glue has given out, which wouldn't be a problem to fix on the door panels, but the dash would be a different story. Supposedly it was kept in a climate controlled building, which would help keep the condition better. The concerns would be the seals on the engine and transmission. I was interested in the car before I bought my 2006, but the seller wouldn't budge off the $40K price, so I moved on. The first thing I would have done beside all fluid and tire changes was to repaint the entire car.
aardvark Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 Personally I would start with making sure all mechanicals are up and working in a '''''dependable''''' manner. Then the cosmetics can be addressed. Still there needs to be some common sense with the Pricing. At $40k it seems high. but is then a crap shoot to see if the rest of the work needing done can be done at a reasonable price... I'm somehow thinking it will take $10-20K just to get it back to perfection. Yes the Car has only <200 miles on it, but a car that sat these many years is basically a mess to begin with.
64studeavanti Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 is this the one in question: https://www.ebay.com/itm/267120563514?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=1A_eGthAQya&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=8XIBhyveTMe&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
mfg Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 I saw this Avanti at South Bend Int. Meet in ‘07…. Beautiful color combo…. Of course, that was in ‘07……. A thorough in person evaluation should be performed on this vehicle… which would probably give very positive results.
ronmanfredi Posted Sunday at 10:07 PM Report Posted Sunday at 10:07 PM (edited) How could that be MFG? The car was shipped to Kuwait Oct 2004 and never left the owners dealership showroom until early 2024. Edited Sunday at 10:08 PM by ronmanfredi correction
aardvark Posted Sunday at 10:38 PM Report Posted Sunday at 10:38 PM That's what concerns me. This succa is floating around everywhere
mfg Posted Sunday at 10:57 PM Report Posted Sunday at 10:57 PM 48 minutes ago, ronmanfredi said: How could that be MFG? The car was shipped to Kuwait Oct 2004 and never left the owners dealership showroom until early 2024. OK… l guess it may have been another one painted that same color… really not sure.
murph the surf Posted Monday at 11:45 PM Report Posted Monday at 11:45 PM (edited) As mentioned above, looks like it's going through Mecum Kissimmee on Sunday...Sunday is generally the best day to get a better deal-it might just slip through the cracks... https://www.mecum.com/lots/1138436/2004-avanti-ii-convertible/?aa_id=649492-0 As an aside, I "chased" a '62 Bentley Continental S2 DHC that I had remembered seeing in my teens while it was still in the hands of the second owner, thinking I'd like to bring it back home- finally locating it consigned to an RM auction in Monaco through it's Kuwaiti owner. Seeing the auction pictures, it was obvious that it had sustained some serious flood damage and subsequent neglect even though that wasn't mentioned in the description-a total heartbreaker to see that formerly gorgeous car in this condition. After some research, I discovered flooding is not uncommon in Kuwait. While it looks like this Avanti hasn't sustained any such damage, I am noticing some funkiness on the door panels. Maybe that's normal for this series of Avanti with age, or as Randy states above, perhaps from high temperatures ????? https://rmsothebys.com/auctions/mc24/lots/r0048-1962-bentley-s2-continental-drophead-coupe-by-park-ward/ Edited Tuesday at 12:55 AM by murph the surf
64studeavanti Posted Tuesday at 12:01 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 12:01 AM Odd that the ebay listing does not state anything about the car being in Kuwait.
64studeavanti Posted Tuesday at 12:03 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 12:03 AM Spoke too soon. Just noticed Kuwait license plate.
ronmanfredi Posted Tuesday at 02:56 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 02:56 AM 3 hours ago, murph the surf said: As mentioned above, looks like it's going through Mecum Kissimmee on Sunday...Sunday is generally the best day to get a better deal-it might just slip through the cracks... https://www.mecum.com/lots/1138436/2004-avanti-ii-convertible/?aa_id=649492-0 As an aside, I "chased" a '62 Bentley Continental S2 DHC that I had remembered seeing in my teens while it was still in the hands of the second owner, thinking I'd like to bring it back home- finally locating it consigned to an RM auction in Monaco through it's Kuwaiti owner. Seeing the auction pictures, it was obvious that it had sustained some serious flood damage and subsequent neglect even though that wasn't mentioned in the description-a total heartbreaker to see that formerly gorgeous car in this condition. After some research, I discovered flooding is not uncommon in Kuwait. While it looks like this Avanti hasn't sustained any such damage, I am noticing some funkiness on the door panels. Maybe that's normal for this series of Avanti with age, or as Randy states above, perhaps from high temperatures ????? https://rmsothebys.com/auctions/mc24/lots/r0048-1962-bentley-s2-continental-drophead-coupe-by-park-ward/ The glue they used back then to glue the leather to the plastic panels must have had some problems since I've seen the same problem on a couple of other 04-05 cars. There is an area on the right side of the dash where the leather is also coming loose. Door panels would be an easy fix, the dash would be another story. The car was stored in a climate controlled car dealership building so I don't think it wasn't abused.
ronmanfredi Posted Tuesday at 03:01 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 03:01 AM 2 hours ago, 64studeavanti said: Odd that the ebay listing does not state anything about the car being in Kuwait.
64studeavanti Posted Tuesday at 03:27 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 03:27 AM Interesting. This is what I see on my phone. Ebay must have different displays for mobile devices.
ronmanfredi Posted Wednesday at 08:56 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 08:56 PM On 1/13/2025 at 9:27 PM, 64studeavanti said: Interesting. This is what I see on my phone. Ebay must have different displays for mobile devices. He originally started at $50K months ago with no action, so he lowered it to $40K on eBay and put it on Hemmings, Classic Cars and ran it through the GCC auction with poor results. He has an upcoming Mecham auction this Sunday, so he relisted the eBay at $50K, most likely thinking it would get potential buyers to bid higher, we will see.
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