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Hahaha! I just showed that photo to my wife and said “so you think I’m bad”. Her response was “those are toys”. My response back “ they sure are”.

Did the 63 Corvette use a Borg-Warner or was it a Muncie?

I imagine the guessing is over but Bob Caser is the closest. It’s hard to substantiate as there have been SO MANY interviews with Caroll Shelby but way back in the later part of the last century, Shelby was interviewed concerning the original or the initial prototype of the AC Cobra. He talked about how they were putting something together which would evolve into the Cobra. He mentioned that the rear end was taken from a Studebaker and fit into the AC chassis. Being that I was and still am, an avid Stude guy his statement has been imprinted in my mind. An even closer match to his statement at that time is “the rear end came out of a six cylinder Studebaker”. Im sure Caroll Shelby, like Andy Granatelli, liked the lime light and enjoyed his time on stage. If he used a model 27 Dana it sure wouldn’t have lasted through one hard shift but if it was dimensionally what he needed at the time he, at least, would have a roller.

No, not a 289. Actually the firstCobra was a 260.

Since we’ve been talking Shelby Cobra’s, what did Carol Shelby borrow from a Studebaker to use on his very first Cobra?

Weren’t the bulk of the 427 Cobras actually 428’s?

Probably all of them.

😂now the price goes f six cylinder drain plugs will go through the roof!😵‍💫

Somewhere I have a photo of one of the GT Hawks getting fueled at Bonneville. It shows Andy leaning in the passenger door shoutin suggestions to the driver. It’s a shot from the rear and the guy fueling the car is just removing the nozzle from the filler with fuel still coming out the hose and an immense amount of fuel gushing out from vents under both rear quarters. It is a very cool action photo depicting the real intensity of those Bonneville runs.

I think the the short mounts always referred to as R3 mounts are actually six cylinder mounts. The factory R3 mounts are the same as any V8 Stude. Im pretty sure they are needed when the high output blower drive is installed. Also it seems some Avantis with standard engines but R3 blower boxes actually clear the hood surface.

I remember that 427 Cobra was tested and had some crazy zero to 100 mph and back to zero times of something like 12 seconds? What ever the time was it was just mind boggling at the time.

To clarify beyond Dwight’s great explanation, the R3 and R4 engine breathers when installed on a California or New York delivered R3 or R4 equipped Studebaker would have the early style 6 cylinder caps with all the vent holes silver soldered shut on both valve covers. So, are we still missing one more part used on both 6 cyl and R3 R4 engine?

Are you looking for specific to R4 not R3 to six cylinder?

Rocker arms, breather caps, oil pump gears although none of those are R4 specific.

Egbert was fingerprinted at the police station and booked I assume.

I think zink additive in oil is what solved the cam problem for Studebaker’s new V8 in 1951. In small aircraft engines they do not allow oil with a zink additive. I’m not sure why but I heard it accumulates on the exhaust valve and causes it to stick. However, since they outlawed zink in the oil the flat tappet cams in the Lycoming engnes and others have a problem with cam lobes wearing out.

Slotting those holes sure make it easier to get the door fit.The rear of the door fit to quarter also benefits. I’ve done that slot job on many. I have to say I can’t remember one from the factory. I actually slotted a lower one on the driver’s side of an 85 Avanti. Maybe they were using old stock by then.

I don’t remember anymore but the 1 1/2 to 2 inches sound about right.

I think what you are talking about is the fuel tank vent for quick filling.

I’d set them with the engine warm and not running. Just crank the engine by hand to get the .025 clearance to your own satisfaction. Just bumping the starter motor is all you really need to do.

I think the oil pan you’re talking about was a 6 quart pan. I wonder if any consideration was made toward using that pan versus the welded up R3/4 pan?

I wonder if they could have had something in the works to identify it but just ran out of time. The badging was there for Larks and Hawks.

They are the second type.

Dwight. That’s about how I feel. I see the 64 type on 63 Studes and they just don’t look right. The 63 type are really different than the 64. I like them both but once I knew the correct application then each has its proper spot so to speak.

I’m not sure how many Avanti owners realize that a different Halibrand style wheel was originally offered for the 63 model run. These wheels appeared on the 63 Super Lark at the NY auto show and probably the other major auto shows. They are also on the 63 R2 Super Hawk road test in, I believe, Motor Trend magazine. How many would be interested in a set of these in reproduction form?? The wheels are shown here on my “survivor” R2 Super Hawk at the Studebaker National Museum. By the way, this Hawk is 100% original including the super red paint. Super red was only available “if” you ordered the high performance package so it s very rare. This particular GT Hawk is probably the best totally original of its kind in existence.