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  2. Template for Studebaker script on trunk lid

    in 1963-64 Avanti

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    31 minutes ago, Mark L said:

    My Avanti has no Studebaker script on the trunk lid. There are no holes in the trunk lid for the pins on the back of the script, so I can only assume that during a previous restoration, the script was deleted and the holes filled in, or the trunk lid was replaced and it never had the holes.

    I'm planning to install a new Studebaker script on the trunk lid so it appears correct.

    Question: Is there a template available that will help me put the script in the correct location?

     

    Mark

    Filled in holes should be visible from back side of trunk lid.

  3. Avanti EX2946!

    in Avanti Trivia

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    20 minutes ago, brad said:

    More than likely 5652. The one in my shop. White with currently orange interior. The one at Indy was white. There was one other white prototype. The build sheet shows red interior, but I haven't tore into it to see if that is how it actually was built.  Things might have changed when it was updated and sold by the factory in engineering.  When restored, it will be as it was when first built including lacquer paint which I already have acquired.

    YEAH...LACQUER BABY!!!

  4. Avanti EX2946!

    in Avanti Trivia

    Posted

    12 hours ago, John Hull said:

    4 Prototypes renumbered

    R5650

    R5651

    R5652

    R5653

     

    Dave Kinny owns both 5652&5653

    New York Auto Show and Operation Airlift vehicles 

    Most significant Avantis ever built

     

     

     

     

     

    Hello John.....would you know which prototype Stude Avanti was used/ seen at the 1962 Indy 500?

  5. Avanti Due Cento!

    in Avanti Pub

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    We know that the Due Cento Avanti's R5 engine is alive and well.....  (possibly sans original heads) However, does anyone know 'what's up' with the car itself?

    Is the Due Cento Avanti still in original unrestored condition...or has it possibly been restored? (less engine)

    'THE WORLD WONDERS'!!

  6. Avanti Four Speed!

    in Avanti Trivia

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    1 hour ago, Dwight FitzSimons said:

    Ok, I remember now that close-ratio gears were an option.  As far as close-ratio gears being more desirable, that depends on the differential ratio and the intended use of the car.  A 4-spd Avanti with 2:20 first gear and a 3.31 diff would be a dog off the line.  I have an R3 Avanti with 3:31 diff and the (wide ratio, A833 ?) Chrysler 4-spd and that combination is great for street driving.

    --Dwight

    That makes sense..it's really all about how the car is to be driven.

  8. Avanti Four Speed!

    in Avanti Trivia

    Posted

    3 hours ago, r1lark said:

    Because of the gear ratios.....................😊

     

    1 hour ago, Nelson said:

    I agree, gear ratios. Early box is close ratio 2.20 low and later are the wide box 2.54 first gear. R3/ R4 cars had the 2.20 box.

    That's it men!.....As the earlier box was basically right out of a Corvette, (excepting for the Stude input shaft), most all of them had close ratio gearing ..... The later box normally had less desirable 'wide' gear ratios, unless the 'close' gears were special ordered, or the car had a Granatelli engine.

    One Stude Avanti owner actually scared up the unique early four speed GM style clutch housing just so he could install that 'close' early four speed in his car! 😃

  10. Avanti Four Speed!

    in Avanti Trivia

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    Why do some folks consider the four speed transmission used in '61 thru early '62 Studebakers (Chevy bolt pattern case) to be more desireable than the four speed trans used in late '62 thru '64 Studebakers and Studebaker Avantis?

  11. 63R2 AT problem: no reverse: Need advice

    in 1963-64 Avanti

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    10 hours ago, forward said:

    My recent purchase of a '63 R2 AT has a problem I need advice/help to diagnose.    Running OK,  but last time driven I noticed it "spooled" before going into reverse.  Took about 5 seconds before it engaged.    Car has been sitting for a couple of years before purchase so am addressing leaks etc.    Used Type F to make sure fluid in tranny was up to mark when hot as it was leaking tranny fluid pretty bad.

    Today, NO reverse.   Won't move.   I have the shop manual but am confused on checking adjustment for reverse/low band.  Of course I don't have the Studebaker tools so what's the correct procedure to use?   The manual says USE tool J-5883 on adjustment screw and tighten screw until the wrench "overruns" then back off etc.     Never heard that term "overruns"  and what does it mean?

    I want to try adjustment.    The tranny shops in SE MN don't seem to want to talk about working on a '63 Avanti.   Please advise.

    If you're in SE MN area and know of a reputable tranny shop please let me know.

    That reverse band adjustment can be made without using the special factory tool....Just a matter of loosening the locknut, then winding adjustment bolt in to a specific torque, then backing bolt off a number of turns...to be honest, I do not remember how many..but that info is available in Motor's Manuals.

  12. Engineless Avanti!

    in Avanti Trivia

    Posted

    7 minutes ago, GeoffC312 said:

    Oh humans knew about streamlining. Lots was discovered in the 1940s via the Germans and then WWII and all those fun times. In the 1930s Wunibald Kamm discovered that if you design a vehicle with a teardrop rear (all the way to the tip), and then truncate the rear before the tip [usually on an angle but some cut vertical], that the effect to the air is similar to leaving the tip. Today we say cars with this style have a Kammback, Kamm tail, or k-tail.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kammback

    I concede the Studebaker budget and the stress of the timing in getting a new halo car to market would have pushed anything extravagant to the back burner or off the table. That part is unfortunate because, damn! What if, right?

    I believe the latest Navy ships utilize a truncated stern, which increases their speed.

  15. Engineless Avanti!

    in Avanti Trivia

    Posted

    6 minutes ago, Anthony63 said:

    Vince and I were good friends years ago. I helped out around the shop for a while before working for Mercedes-Benz. Also I specifically talked with Andy back in 2012 (around there) about this engine after I saw it at the South Bend meet. All of the Due Cento engines had been stamped, this one was not. Also Andy confirmed that none of the engines had a hole in the cylinder, this one pictured above did. There was an engine for the Due Cento that was blown on the dyno, but it was numbered. Somewhere I think I have a list laying around from Andy of which blocks were R-3s, which were built to be R-4s, and what block numbers were R-5s. He did confirm that the engine above does have one of the original intake systems and pulley setups that was used on the car. 

    Hmmm!.. interesting!.. so there were a few other 'R5' engines that didn't quite 'make it' !!!

    (It's wonderful that folks like Anthony63 are willing to share their memories!)

  16. Avanti Change!

    in Avanti Trivia

    Posted

    2 hours ago, Dwight FitzSimons said:

    To me, another flaw in the Avanti's design is the plumpness in its mid-section (i.e., rear part of the roof).  That plumpness reminds me of the Jaguar XK-E 2+2 and Nissan 280Z 2+2.

    -Dwight

    I understand what you mean...The XK-E 2+2 looks, to me anyway, especially 'bulky'.

  20. Engineless Avanti!

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    Posted

    3 minutes ago, Anthony63 said:

    As far as the Due Cento goes my understanding is that the engine that has been built is a tribute (for lack of better terms) with some of the original intake components. 

    Not too sure...a piece of the original engine block's oil pan mounting flange was broken out when a rod let go, but I'm pretty sure that the original block was eventually repaired ??

     

  24. Engineless Avanti!

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    Posted

    15 hours ago, Nelson said:

    I guess I should know this as it was/is my car. R5593. Originally delivered to Leepers Studebaker. Gray, black interior, automatic, 4.09 axle, tilt wheel and am/fm as delivered. The am/fm not on the PO. However the car had 700 miles on it when delivered so probably was used in SB for awhile and had the radio installed by some executive(?) who was using it? Maybe.

    The engine was removed by Leeper so his wife could have air conditioning installed. He installed a standard 289 with an ac unit. When I bought  it Leeper no longer had the R3 engine. He had sold it to his mechanic. I was told it was in a Stude truck and the mechanic had moved to the Phoenix area. I later found out that Ed Reynolds bought the engine and put it in a black 64 convertible. Roy Heckers bought the convertible and he sold it to a fellow in Knoxville, Tenn. I kept in contact with the fellow in Tennessee and after twenty or thirty years I was able to buy the car with engine. Now the original engine is mated to its original car. At least it’s on an engine stand next to it.

    Wow!... thanks Nelson...Best of luck with this very special Avanti...and that's 'THE REST OF THE STORY' !!

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