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Mark...what might be a nice idea, just because of the Studebaker connection, would be to use an STP oil filter. They're made by Champion Labs which is definitely good stuff, plus the Studebaker connection between the two brands. Never mind that STP never made oil filters back then and the company has had so many corporate owners in the years since that it's truly not a real connection beyond the names. Auto Zone sells STP brand filters.
Probably something I would do just for that reason.
thanks I like that idea. Would you believe I was rear-ended AGAIN!!!!!! Saterday night while driving from NJ into Staten Island for a Studebaker club holiday party I was on the Staten Island Expressway sitting in traffic when an @##$%^&&& or idiot by any other name crashed into me. Same car event as over a year ago when a lady driving with her knee, on her cell phone and putting on makeup crashed into me when I was sitting at a red light. Man, some events that repeat are just not fun. At least this time the idiot has auto insurance. Thanks for the oil filter suggestion. Mark
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Thought I would bring this post to the present day. I am seeking the same information that was asked years ago. Thanks.
I have an answer and source for you both, when I finished a restoration on my 64 R2 including a rebuild of the engine I contacted Jon Myer and bought a group of decals and fuses whereas Jon supplied a printed listing of where goes what. That was very helpful, sadly I do not have that list and my car is back in the shop as another idiot rear-ended me Saturday night while I was driving to a Studebaker club holiday party.So, call Jon Myer
Mark
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In the 1970's I worked for a JC Penney Auto Center...all of our filters...oil, air, fuel, etc., were made by Champion Labs. I never saw a problem with any of them. They were all fine quality. I wouldn't have a problem using a filter sold under any label if it was made by Champion Labs.
An aside to that...all of Penney's tune-up parts...spark plugs, ignition points, condensers, distributor caps and rotors, spark plug wires...all were made by Prestolite, which supplied so many electrical pats to Studebaker. I never saw a problem with any of those parts either. We also sold Accel products to the performance crowd...those parts never matched the Penney/Prestolite parts for service. That could certainly have been due to racing use. The Accel points were high quality and had high spring pressure to keep the points from bouncing at high rpm's, but that also led to faster rubbing block wear and replacement.
Private label doesn't have to mean lower quality.
Wow, so many braniacs! Lots of information that has complicated the decision. guess I will just leave in what I have--No not really. Thanks for the supportive information. Mark
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Studebaker part number is AC3311 (R1 & R2). Here are cross reference part numbers for the filter:
Hastings212 / Checker C 11 / NAPA 1049 / AC PF-31 / Fram PH 11 / Puralator PER-5 / Big A 661 / Wix 51055 / Motorcraft FL-2 /
Mopar L-1 / NAPA: 1049 / Hastings 212 / Purolator PER5 / Wix 51049 / Baldwin V9A (from Bob Johnstone's site)
Myer Studebaker uses the Wix filters and recommends them.
I appreciate your answer as you too have reached the top rung of the information ladder
Mark
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The easy answer...whatever you like best. Not a good answer I know, but on the Corvette Forums I go to there's a lot of controversy for no good reason about just that subject. Guys have their favorites and some even buy a bunch and cut them open just to see how they're built and compare them that way. Way too deep for me.
Many people say stay away from FRAM...they used to make a fine filter but the company is under different ownership and the product has been cheapened. Most seem to agree that WIX or NAPA Gold seem to be the best...I'm not sure but I think NAPA Gold is made for them by WIX.
There's filters with and without oil pressure bypass valves built in...some argue about the good and bad of each. The way I look at it is if you change your oil and filter regularly it really doesn't matter that much what brand. For an extended oil change schedule then buying a better brand may make a difference, but that's arguable I guess. If any brand says it meets all manufacturer's warranty requirements, it should be good for all intents and purposes.
Regular, conscientious oil and filter changes is the secret more than the brand of oil and filter. Saying that would start a fight on the Corvette Forum...not my intent here, but my opinion.
How entertaing that you alone have again risen to the top of the information chain of command of all that is Studebaker Avanti important. Wow, that took some thought. Thanks for the anwer. Mark
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Ok all you braniacs, now that my 64R2 is back on the road and the engine is toatally perfect, what is the overall choice for the best oil filter on the market?
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Hi all, I am looking for an oil pan for a friend who is building up an engine. The shop somehow lost the pan, go figure how they did that. So if you have one on the shelf give me an email at unimogjohn@aol.com, and will put you and the buyer in touch. TX.
Give Jon Myer a call in Ohio 740 674 6732 and also try Betty&Dan Booth with Nostalgic 8002826849 Both are very reliable and have lots of inventory. You can also call Dave Thibeault 978 897 3158 in Maynard MA
good luck
Mark
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Just a little note. I had a friend that had a bad supercharger bearing, or so he thought. It turned out to be the Idle pully bearing instead. Also check this.
Roland
Thanks Roland, I had the engine rebuilt,balanced and blueprinted. All pullys and everything surrounding the engine is new. I will wait for Jon Myer. In the meantime I hooked up a larger diameter silver flex hose( used for the dryer in the home) and clamped both ends around the bonnet and the lip around the air fileter. Car runs great
Mark
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Go to a store like Pep Boys, Auto Zone, etc., and look their speed and custom aisle for parts made by Spectre. They make a series of modular air cleaner parts that you might be able to use that will work. You can also look at their website and look over what's available before going to a store.
From experience, Jon Myers' service and turnaround is exemplary. You might have your Paxton back soon enough not to worry about driving your car for such a short time.
you are always a great source of information. Thanks again, Mark
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My Paxton Supercharger was mailed out to Myers two weeks ago I need a good inexpensive suggestion. Without the supercharger, what can I hook up to the bonnet or to the large diameter hose between the bonnett and the missing supercharger that will filter out any nasty stuff that the carberator wants to suck in?
Only local driving is intended. The local NAPPA and other shops have large round filters that would fit onto the hose but they are too large close the hood. So with the cold,dry air her in NJ what suggestions can you brilliant minds come up with that is inexpensive and temporary?
thanks, Mark
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I agree that the wheels should be bigger too. You might want to consider a different tire as those seem low on thread.
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I sent an email to Jon Myers and received a quick and important reply. I will most likely box it up and ship it out before weeks end. Hopefully the rebuild time will be short and I will be able to enjoy the cool dry air that is so enjoyed by older engines.Check out Avanti Magazine's vendor pages as well vendors who advertise in the SDC. There are several rebuilders who do Paxton's. Besides Jon Myers there's also Jon Erb and maybe a few others. I would definitely send the blower to someone well versed in them. I know Jon Myers does outstanding work from experience (not on a blower) and so does John Erb by reputation.
thanks for the answer
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And change your fluid now!!!!!!!!!! You can use a little hand pump to remove the fluid, or take it out and dump out the fluid. Use ATF type F. Then run the engine for 10 to 15 minutes or so and drain again. Do this three or four times. It may save your supercharger if it is not too far gone. A rebuild these days are about $700 to 800 on average.
When the car was restored about 2 years ago that was one of the first fluid changes done. Since the engine was rebuilt months ago and only 300 miles are on it, the fluid was changed before the rebuild and again shortly therafter. Yes, I did use ATF type F. I bought a couple of cases from my local NAPA store as the transmission was undergoing a total rebuild too. Thanks for the advise.
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My 64R2 #5470 is finally back on the road; again. Today I heard noises that sounded like another repair waiting to happen. I think a bearing is going on my Paxton Supercharger as the noise is intermittent, more so than not. Is there a kit to repair this or is John Myer the only reputable repair tech. out there? I am in NJ and would like someone local if indeed there are other qualified service techs out there.
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I've heard of people putting a lot of money into their Avanti......but not literally.
Jim, you can not imagine how much I have invested. My 64R2 was perfectly and beautifully restored. Less than 2 months later and 4 car shows, while sitting at a light, a woman driving with her knee, putting on makeup and hand holding a cell phone ran into me while I was at a 3 lane stop light with 6 other cars. Best part, she had NO insurance. My company wanted me or insisted I use their shop for repairs, even though the owner did not want to do the work. So, another huge amount of money and a lawsuit to follow.
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When I bought my 73 Avanti II I did notice the tool pouch. The insides were just dusty so I had my choice of what tools to add. Over the years and many repairs later, I decided to use the tool slots as storage for rolls of $5's,$10's and $20's, and a few $50's.
Later on, I just added a check book inside the glove box vantiy draw.
Mark
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I know this car. The car sat outside for many years a few blocks from the ocean in Ocean Grove, New Jersey. The mechanic who bought the car was going to restore it, but left it alone and did minor stuff; tuneup, fuel/fluid changes,etc. We met a few times at local shows. Just recently he sold the car for what he paid for it, about $5800.00 This car needed chrome work, full paint, all rubber around doors/windows replaced. The carpet was exhausted and some interior work needed. I know the torque boxes were an issue. I can not speak about the mechanics as I did not drive the car.
When I remember the owners name I will add it later and will try to find out who bought the car too.
Mark
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So frequently at car shows I am asked how many Studebaker Avanti's are left. That is a good question. So, what is the estimate on how many are left? I would include those that are parts car, running, sort of running, sometimes running. thanks
Mark
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I can really understand what you are going through. I have had 2 beautifully restored cars; a 73 Avanti II and a 64R2 damaged as the result of a commercial transport accident and an uninsured NJ female driving with her knee on the phone and putting on makeup crash into me.
First, seriously look at the insurances that your Mom had and the driver that caused the accident. If you do not have a local Avanti or Studebaker Chapter near where you live, go online and find the closest Chapter and contact them. Get as many close up digital photos as possible and include all angles and get underneath too. You need to contact a restoration shop and not a collision shop as the work quality is different, I know this twice.
Both of my cars were repaired in NJ by a shop that does high end collision and restoration. My mechanic is also knowledgeable as he worked on both cars too.
While shipping the car out of State adds expense, that idea should not be dismissed if locally you can not get reliable and qualified mechanics.
Realize that time is not on your side here, the repairs could take up to 4 to 6 months and maybe longer if the frame is damaged.
contact me if you need great references.
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Great for you! Now you have two different generation Avanti's to enjoy! Once you're done with the restoration of the R2, you can start looking for a Blake generation car, a Kelly and Kelly/Caffaro and finally a Villa Rica/Cancun car to add to your stable!
Gunslinger, you are sniffing way to much octane boost !! Thanks for your suggestions, but I am looking at the 63 R1 I almost bought before I found the 64R2! Hopefully the 64 will be on the road the end of the month after 9 months recuperating from the redhead who was driving with her knee, on her cell phone and putting on makeup when she ran into me while I was a a stop light!! Imagine, she was upset about her car and oh yea, NO INSURANCE.
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Many of you have heard my story of my frame on restored 73 Avanti II with $40K worth of receipts that was involved in a trucking delivery accident a couple of years ago. Well, I did repair the car, thought to sell as I restored a 64R2: R5470, and now decided to keep the car. So indeed I have 2.
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Pete, having restored two Avanti's one a 64 Studebaker R2 and another a 73 Avanti II, I totally agree with Gunslinger.
Keeping in mind that you probably can not offer a warranty and the parts are used, do your research on the various websites, publications. E-Bay and Hemmings should not be overlooked. Remember most of the money people have for restoration is discretionary so selling at a resonable price will allow you a quicker turnaround. Take as many closeups and with small items have a reference nearby for height,length etc.
When you compile a list of items for each year create a file and allow the many to bid or buy the few items.
Good luck, Mark
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Looking for a grill and a right side vent door for my 63 avanti or any advise where to get them
Check with Betty & Dan from Nostalgic Motors, they are great, call 800 282 6849
Mark
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Hello,
Can I get a price range for a 63 or 64 R2 in nice restored condition. I've always enjoyed seeing them and now I'd like to have one,
thanks,
Dave
Chalk Hill Pa
I bought a 64R2 last year for about $13K, after all the restoration I have $35K invested. I am pleased with the completed work; strip & paint, all new rubber(doors-windows trunk-hood), rebuilt trans & torque converter, replaced shocks,springs,brakes,all hoses&belts,interior carpet,replaced all front end suspension parts,show chrom front & rear bumper-bonnet and valve covers. After getting the car back; 3 months later, an idiot of a woman driving with her knee,on her cell phone & putting on makeup, ran into the back of my car while I was at a stop light. She hit me hard enough to brake the motor mounts, so you can imagine the damage. Best yet, she had NO insurance ! Good luck
oil filter for 64R2
in 1963-64 Avanti
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Thanks for the thoughts. Actually I consider the fact that I drive my cars. I am not the guy who uses the car for a local parade or to drive during warm,clear & sunny days with limited traffic. I think nothing of a 65 mile drive from NJ into NYC, leaving the car at the parking garage & then drive downtown into Little Italy and enjoy dinner with the guys while the car is parked on the street; usually during the summer whereas we eat outside 15ft from the car. Bad luck, nah, I use my toys and enjoy them, guess so many people have never seen an Avanti so they get up front an personal; or in this case up my "rear" to a better look.
Happy Holiday to you too
Mark