mfg Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 "Wire Spoke Wheel Discs", could be ordered as optional equipment on any 1964 Studebaker passenger car, including Avantis, for an extra......?..... 1) 37.25.......2) 56.50.....3) 68.00.....or....4) 74.55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regnalbob Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 21 hours ago, mfg said: "Wire Spoke Wheel Discs", could be ordered as optional equipment on any 1964 Studebaker passenger car, including Avantis, for an extra......?..... 1) 37.25.......2) 56.50.....3) 68.00.....or....4) 74.55 None of the above for the Avanti. For the Avanti it was a $63.00 option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted December 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 2 hours ago, regnalbob said: None of the above for the Avanti. For the Avanti it was a $63.00 option. My info indicates #3, but $63.00 is close enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regnalbob Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 3 hours ago, mfg said: My info indicates #3, but $63.00 is close enough! $63.00 is not close enough, it is correct. Your info is wrong. My info is from Studebaker Sales Letter 190 , 1964 Avanti prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted December 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, regnalbob said: $63.00 is not close enough, it is correct. Your info is wrong. My info is from Studebaker Sales Letter 190 , 1964 Avanti prices. Please post Studebaker Sales letter 190.....Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regnalbob Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, mfg said: Please post Studebaker Sales letter 190.....Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted December 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) Good job Bob!....(Actually, the true answer here is..... 'whatever the dealer wanted to charge'! ) Edited December 6, 2021 by mfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regnalbob Posted December 6, 2021 Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, mfg said: Good job Bob!....(Actually, the true answer here is..... 'whatever the dealer wanted to charge'! ) No, the true answer to the original question is $63.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted December 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2021 19 hours ago, regnalbob said: No, the true answer to the original question is $63.00. Good boy Bob!....Bye the bye, when you posted Studebaker Sales Letter 190, why did you 'block' 90% of the page?....I found that quite odd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted December 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) On 12/5/2021 at 10:03 PM, regnalbob said: No, the true answer to the original question is $63.00. Turns out regnalbob's information was incorrect, superseded on a price change sheet released by Studebaker on 11/11/63....The correct answer is $68.00.....EXCEPT on GT Hawks, where the wire spoke disc option cost $63.00! Edited December 12, 2021 by mfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regnalbob Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 hours ago, mfg said: Turns out regnalbob's information was incorrect, superseded on a price change sheet released by Studebaker on 11/11/63....The correct answer is $68.00.....EXCEPT on GT Hawks, where the wire spoke disc option cost $63.00! Please post that price change sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted December 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 6 hours ago, regnalbob said: Please post that price change sheet. We're STILL wondering why you blocked out 90% of Studebaker Sales Letter 190 dated 10/28/63 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regnalbob Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 22 hours ago, mfg said: Turns out regnalbob's information was incorrect, superseded on a price change sheet released by Studebaker on 11/11/63....The correct answer is $68.00.....EXCEPT on GT Hawks, where the wire spoke disc option cost $63.00! 19 hours ago, regnalbob said: Please post that price change sheet. 13 hours ago, mfg said: We're STILL wondering why you blocked out 90% of Studebaker Sales Letter 190 dated 10/28/63 ? My information is not incorrect. Any orders before 11/11/63 would be $63.00. I posted the sales letter that contains all the information needed to answer the original question. Will you post the the price change sheet released by Studebaker on 11/11/63 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted December 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 4 hours ago, regnalbob said: My information is not incorrect. Any orders before 11/11/63 would be $63.00. I posted the sales letter that contains all the information needed to answer the original question. Will you post the the price change sheet released by Studebaker on 11/11/63 ? No, you are not correct about this Bob....Your answer of $63.00 would have been correct if the original question had a cut off date of 11/11/63...however, it did not. Price increases are unfortunately a fact of life, and I regard the final (11/11/63) price change as the correct answer to this trivia question. (when Ford first introduced their F series pickup it could be purchased for around $1290.00....I don't think you would expect to pay $1290.00 for the 2021 version...would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 Is there a letter from Studebaker dated 11/11/63 specifying the price change? Enquiring minds want to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted December 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, 64studeavanti said: Is there a letter from Studebaker dated 11/11/63 specifying the price change? Enquiring minds want to know. Apparently there was, however, I do not have it...I obtained this information from George Krem's article, on pg 16 of the September 1989 Turning wheels. (In the article, Mr. Krem relates to price changes for 1964 models released by Studebaker Corp. on 11/11/63.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regnalbob Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 46 minutes ago, mfg said: No, you are not correct about this Bob....Your answer of $63.00 would have been correct if the original question had a cut off date of 11/11/63...however, it did not. Price increases are unfortunately a fact of life, and I regard the final (11/11/63) price change as the correct answer to this trivia question. (when Ford first introduced their F series pickup it could be purchased for around $1290.00....I don't think you would expect to pay $1290.00 for the 2021 version...would you? It is not a cut off date. Buyers would have been charged $63.00 until the price increase on 11/11/63. How can you regard the price change as the correct answer when you have nothing to support it? 29 minutes ago, mfg said: Apparently there was, however, I do not have it...I obtained this information from George Krem's article, on pg 16 of the September 1989 Turning wheels. (In the article, Mr. Krem relates to price changes for 1964 models released by Studebaker Corp. on 11/11/63.) You have nothing to support your claim of a price increase. The $63.00 cost is also listed in The Studebaker Avanti Production Data with data from George D. Krem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted December 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, regnalbob said: It is not a cut off date. Buyers would have been charged $63.00 until the price increase on 11/11/63. How can you regard the price change as the correct answer when you have nothing to support it? You have nothing to support your claim of a price increase. The $63.00 cost is also listed in The Studebaker Avanti Production Data with data from George D. Krem. Well, I guess you'll need to discuss this further with Mr. Krem...but for now I'll take his article's word for it! Answer to this trivia question remains #3...$68.00..(.regnalbob posted outdated information) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasthwy1 Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 What did the factory wire wheels look like? What about these on a junk 64? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted December 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, coasthwy1 said: What did the factory wire wheels look like? What about these on a junk 64? Studebaker never offered a real wire wheel for their post WW2 cars, although Avanti motors did later on..... What we're discussing here is an accessory wire wheel cover...and it's rarely seen today on Studebakers or Avantis........There is a reason for that...it's looks, in my humble opinion, are nothing to write home about!! (There was a real wire wheel (Dayton) used on a few factory show/road test cars in '63-'64, apparently six sets of these wheels were made up, however, they never made the option list) Edited December 18, 2021 by mfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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