Fourward Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 Since I can't find the lower shield, and, the side shield for the torque converter housing anywhere, do you think I really need them? Parts number 1549244 and 1549243. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 I may have a spare set if you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 If you're handy, those two shields aren't all that difficult to make..you should have them on car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourward Posted February 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 64Stude, If you want to sell me those shields, I'll buy 'em and pay shipping. I live in central PA 17866. 570 898 1992 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 Ok, I will go to the shop tomorrow morning and locate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourward Posted February 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 Thanks. Let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 I checked 4 bell housings and did not see any. So, either they are missing, possible, or I do kot know what I am looking for, likely. In any case, Studebaker International shows both parts on-line for reasonable prices. They do not list Avanti specifically, but the part number is the same for all models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourward Posted February 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 Thanks anyway. Studebaker International does show them, I ordered them, $12 and $10 or so a piece, the receipt showed up "out of stock." Phil Harris keeps saying he has them, but he doesn't. Like I said, hard to find. I am trying to put together Avanti #4788. I still need a starter and a brake booster. Impossible to get without cores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourward Posted February 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 One shield is a straight strip of angle iron, the other is a bookend shaped piece, according to the parts manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) For the starter, you can use any 12 volt, V8 Stude starter as long as it matches the transmission type. My 64 R1 came with a Delco starter and always started. I have since located the correct Prestolite unit for authenticity.  For the booster, I believe that disc brake Larks use the same one. Also, there was a trivia question on this forum that implies that the booster from late 60s Hemi charger is identical. However, this may be rarer than the Stude version. In my notes, I have recorded that an ABS 7" dual diaphram booster will work, if not needing authenticity. Unfortunately, I didn't write down any part numbers or other identification. Edited February 12, 2023 by 64studeavanti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 6 hours ago, 64studeavanti said: For the starter, you can use any 12 volt, V8 Stude starter as long as it matches the transmission type. My 64 R1 came with a Delco starter and always started. I have since located the correct Prestolite unit for authenticity.  For the booster, I believe that disc brake Larks use the same one. Also, there was a trivia question on this forum that implies that the booster from late 60s Hemi charger is identical. However, this may be rarer than the Stude version. In my notes, I have recorded that an ABS 7" dual diaphram booster will work, if not needing authenticity. Unfortunately, I didn't write down any part numbers or other identification. By the way, that Delco starter is of a higher quality than the Prestolite! (IMHO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourward Posted February 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 Hey, you are giving me some hope. I have a starter, I think it is a MDU 7005 or 7006, fits 61 to 64 Studebaker, and indeed, it fits on there. It might have been the one that was on the car, the previous owner gave it to me in a hurry. It was a running driving car before... However, I bench tested it the other day, and, it shorts out. As soon as I hook up a negative cable, I get a shower of sparks. I put a multimeter on it, it shows continuity from the positive cable terminal to the case. It also showered sparks when I had it attached to the engine. Any comments on that? I took the two long screws out, it looks good in there. Brushes nice and full... As for the booster, yes hope, I got maybe the last booster in a NAPA store for a 68 New Yorker which I was told would fit, it didnt. Do you guys use a proportioning valve, and, the Avanti original brake junction box?    Thank you 64 Stude, I am kinda at an impass, been working about a half hour a day since August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 I could be wrong, but i believe that Prestolite mdu 7005/7006 are for 6 cylinder. The older delcos should be readily available. The correct starter is the Prestolite MDY series with 4 poles. Early Avantis came with the MDU series, same as non "R" stude V8s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 I just checked the parts stash and I have a spare Prestolite MDU 7026. This for non "R" Stude V8 with auto trans. I also have a spare 12V Delco. I need to check if it is for V8, stick or auto. I do not know the condition of either, but if you are interested, I will clean them up and bench test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 Checked the tag on the Delco and is for 6 cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourward Posted February 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 I am interested, here is a picture of mine, it fits, but, like I said, shorts out. If you have a working one, I am interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourward Posted February 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 My Avanti is an automatic. R1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 The one I have is for non "R" V8s. This was used until a service bulletin was published May 9th, 1963. The reason given for the change was improved cold weather starting.  I will clean it up and bench test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourward Posted February 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 OK, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 Hooked the starter to a 12V battery and is spins freely. FWIW, both of my 63s use this starter. My guess is that they were assembled before the change. I do not have any issues with either starting, however, I live in Florida, so no cold weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourward Posted February 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 Great!!! What do you want for it? Shipping it will be heavy. Maybe they still have those large, one price boxes at USPS. I live in PA 17866 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 How about $100. There is one on ebay in Dover that wants $150 + 27.95 for shipping. He does state that the terminal is loose. I do not know if he tested it.  I does fit in a large flat rate box. I will need to reinforce the box, but it will still be under 70 lbs. USPS wants $22.80. FWIW, R4551 was assembled in May and does have the MDU 7026 starter. Your Avanti would have been assembled after that and should have gotten the MDY starter. If you do paypal or zelle, that would work for payment. I will message you with details, and you can get me your address.  I have attached a couple of pictures. It needs a little cleaning and paint. The drive teeth look to be in good condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourward Posted February 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 That is a fair price! I do have Paypal, I will have to figure out how to put money into it, havent used it in a while. Paypal doesnt take a percentage do they? I think I can figure it out, if not I will send a check, you can wait for it to clear... Here is my phone number, I will give you my address, you can give me your Paypal Email. Thanks again. 570 898 1992 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourward Posted February 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 OK, got the money in Paypal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64studeavanti Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 If you check your messages on this forum, you have my email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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