Dwight FitzSimons
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Outside rear-view mirrors were optional. Evidently, early '63 cars had them on the front fenders. Studebaker issued a template with measurements for placing it/them on the door(s), possibly because Engineering realized that they were more effective on the door. See another thread for an image of the template. Many of these mirrors were dealer installed.
--Dwight
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2 hours ago, mfg said:
I hope you're correct...I have 64R1379, and it has the two Strato- Vue fender mirrors and the tiny rearview mirror....
Obviously..it's not an everyday driver !!!! 😉
It looks like the stylists didn't communicate with Engineering before they released their mirror designs. Or, Engineering didn't catch the issue when they did their review. The other issue is the placement of the inside mirror, down low on the windshield. An Engineering Bulletin (or whatever) was issued stating where & how to move it up. It's kinda mind blowing to think that those cars left the plant with a tiny mirror mounted just above the dash.
--Dwight
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Does the "Template for Alternate Installation on Door" imply that the original placement of the outside rear-view mirror was up on the front fenders? If so, then the "alternate placement" was an engineering improvement to the driver's rear vision, like the larger inside mirror. The original inside mirror was tiny and was replaced by a larger one.
So, if my suppositions are true, then the fender-mounted outside mirror(s) and tiny inside mirror are correct for early Avantis.
--Dwight
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6 hours ago, mfg said:
Really?..
The Avanti Strato-Vue mirror is an outstanding design. Installing a pair of them on the rear portions of an Avanti's front fenders showcases those beautiful mirrors, and highly complements the car itself (IMHO)
Just my sense of taste, but the mirrors on the fenders interfere with the beautiful lines of an Avanti. The mirrors are beautiful themselves, but the lines of the car far outweigh them. Putting them on the fenders pulls one's eye away from the lines of the car.
Several years ago I had a choice of two very nice Avantis locally, one with one mirror on the driver's door, the other with mirrors on the fenders. The mirrors were the deciding factor in the one I bought (ok, I'm exaggerating a little).
--Dwight
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44 minutes ago, Dunkin said:
Thank you both very much, my wife agrees with you on the placement.
Smart man!
--Dwight
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Today, I wouldn't expect to pay much less than $905 for front & rear seat uph., at least not for quality. Quality is the issue. I don't know, however, what the quality of the SI upholstery is. I would have to see a sample before buying. "Long after the price is forgotten the quality remains."
--Dwight
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1 hour ago, Galvagni said:
A Dana 44 out of Studebaker!
I assumed that that would be an impossible task. Hopefully I'm wrong. I'll give it a look. Thanks
Many Studebakers came with Dana 44's. All 289 V8 Hawks & Lark-types were factory equipped with a Dana 44. If you will accept tapered axles it would be easy to find one of those.
--Dwight
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Perhaps the close-ratio and wide-ratio 4 speeds used different shift levers.
--Dwight
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1 hour ago, mfg said:
The largest diameter clutch assy (disc/pressure plate) used in any Studebaker passenger car is the clutch found in Studebakers equipped with 'R' series engines......True?
False. I'm guessing that some of the big-engined, pre-WWII Studebakers had larger clutches.
--Dwight
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Occasionally an original Dana 44 flanged diff. out of a mid-65 or '66 Lark-type comes up for sale. That would bolt right in. The brackets are available and can be welded on.
--Dwight
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Studebaker International offers seat uph. for Avantis in all of the 1963-64 interior colors. That is on page 31 of their new catalog.
--Dwight
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Some like their Avanti's mirror(s) on the front fenders, but I prefer my mirror on the door as above. Aside from front-fender installation being less functional and difficult to adjust I think door-mounted mirrors look better. They look oddball on the front fender to me.
--Dwight
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3 minutes ago, Rags63 said:
There is a B 154 by the distributor. What dose the B stand for?
The "B" means an R3 or R4 engine. If that's the only number stamped into the block then the engine was sold in a crate (i.e., not in a car). From what I have read there were a few R3/R4 engines with an "A" prefix built before the B series.
--Dwight
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4) Seven: 170, 259, 289, R1, R2, R3, R4.
--Dwight
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So, I wonder what Joe Granatelli told South Bend he was going to do with the car, or whether he addressed that issue at all with them. Maybe they just assumed that he was going to put an R3 or R4 engine in it.
--Dwight
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On 2/26/2023 at 7:05 AM, 1963r2 said:
Obviously, this car has no X member. Note how twisted the rear "axle" is relative to the front.
--Dwight
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I'm going to guess that that particular Avanti was factory equipped with an R0 engine; in other words, with no engine.
--Dwight
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1 hour ago, Rick Allen said:
The forge number is very visible to find but where is the part number located on the crankshaft?,,,
The part number would have originally been on a tag attached to the crankshaft, but not stamped or forged on the crankshaft itself. Those familiar with how foundries are operated might explain this better than I.
--Dwight
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The part number for the R1/R2 (& 289) crankshaft is 1556929. What you are looking at is the forging number, which is not the same thing as a part number. (On rare occasions the two might be the same on some forgings or castings).
--Dwight
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42 minutes ago, Footer said:
It’s been a long time but I don’t remember one on my 64 R1 Daytona. Mike
It could be that your oil pan had been changed out for an ordinary one. In any event, that tube is difficult to see. Attached are pix of my '64 Hawk R1. The large hose from the top of the tube goes to the air cleaner and is part of the PCV system (also small hose to carb base). The parts catalog shows the PCV tube as P/N 1557752, for all R1 or R2, for 63V and 64V.
--Dwight
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The "correct" stance would be, to some extent at least, in the eye of the beholder. The stance would also depend on the tires used. What you might need would be a picture of a car and the measurements from ground to the highest point of the wheel well. An example I like:
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All Avanti engines (R1, 2, 3, 4, whether installed in an Avanti, Lark, or Hawk)) have a tube mounted on the passenger side of the oil pan (as on the R4 engine pictured) and coming up by the right rocker cover. The R1 & R2 engines have a shorter one; The R3 & R4 engines have a longer one, as on this R4. AFAIK, there are two types of long (R3-R4) tubes: 1) for PCV (pictured) and 2) for non-PCV (has breather cap).
--Dwight
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I guess this is obvious from 64studeavanti's response, but 43 divided by 13 = 3.31.
--Dwight
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Re "stamped versus raised" there is NO DOUBT that they are stamped -- believe me. It is an optical illusion that it may look raised.
How would Studebaker manufacturing make a serial number that is raised? They would have to change the mold for each block they cast. That would have been very impractical. Besides, on '64 engines the serial number reflects the type of engine and the assembly date. They couldn't cast a block, machine it, and assemble it all in one day.
--Dwight (2 '64 Avantis, 3 '64 R1 Hawks, 1 '64 R1 Cruiser, 1 '63 R2 Hawk, ~20 previously owned Studes)
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R3, R4, R5 Questions
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I know of no list, but I suspect that someone has compiled such a list. I own B-69 (R3) and owned B86 (R3) and B-77 (R4).
--Dwight