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^ Sir.. I opened the discussion and am selling nothing.

Welcome. 1 of the videos is pretty good as well.

From Haggerty. Hope it comes up for Y'all. https://www.hagerty.com/media/people/before-he-finally-conquered-indy-andy-granatelli-took-on-bonneville/?hashed_email=1dfdc72d5be40fcdd9981423736a374fed1048af20ae93afd62e537405ff6270&dtm_em=1dfdc72d5be40fcdd9981423736a374fed1048af20ae93afd62e537405ff6270

We've conferred about my '02'' supposing my info is on file?

Hog.. Ya gotta keep a trickle charger on em.... and I've never gutted a battery Brad..to be a critic I could say 2 of the engine bays are without complete spark plug noise suppression panels and from a dealership the engines never looked like that having dual carbs and a few other options....But the reality to me is all 3 look excellent.

Good points from You both.

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I suspect my acquaintance (not buddy) is after 200mph, not just the 170 record.

Yes, I sort of did the same, gutting the 3EE to keep the ‘look’… but instead of going with a small battery inside it, I left the battery case empty and relocated a Group 24 to the trunk, Good idea, MFG..... I'll keep that in mind.. The acquaintance I know modifying the 63 Avanti will likely go into full ground effects and spoilers., so there are those out there totally modifying these cars. That takes on total modifications to the fiberglass. To me, to make sense out of all He's doing He likely picked up His Avanti on the cheap..I never asked Him about the specifics of that.

Well, I re-supported my box. It was cracked in one corner and I fiberglassed 4 layers on it... but yeah the battery is crap.. I went thru 3 of em in 1 year before I put a trickle charger on it .I do like the old look of the design... it's quite unique in style.. Saw one guy cut the battery open and remove the guts.. He installed a new battery inside of the original box... just to keep that Retro Look.

That's pretty much my stance for my '63' R2, since its condition is 90% great and no need for major upgrades,.(cept brakes as said earlier) .....I don't see the need for a trunk mounted battery and I've read all the weight distribution and other points. Diehard still makes the stock battery, which is crap, but I keep a mini charger on it constantly. The points You've pointed out can easily be reverted back to stock.... if desired.

Some good feedback, and I agree with all points expressed. We still haven't heard from those doing like that Acquaintance of mine....LS 3's and all Hi Perf. Also the doing massive bodywork changes. Ron... I would own Your Dolenz car if funds were available... Ya had me drooling on my boots.

There are differing intents and desires as Car Owners. Some live for every nut and bolt being 100% original. Others really don't care and go for Mods and Upgrades to suit their needs. Where do You fit into the mix? Me personally,, I have a '63' R2 that is a 100% original vehicle in very good condition. The only intent I have for Upgrades or Mods is on the brakes. I'm planning on going to Turner Brakes with a dual master cylinder. My reason is we live in an area of steep mountains with twisty curves. I will save the Original Parts in case the next Owner wants to convert back.. And then... A acquaintance up the road is tearing His '63' down, putting a LS3, 600hp engine with Tremec 5 speed... Modifying the suspension and all Hi Performance upgrades. His intent is to go to the Salt Flats and surpass the 170mph land speed record.. I personally support either direction, but have one thing to add... IF You have a truly 100% example in very good condition. wouldn't it be prudent to keep it that way for no other reason but a Financial one? Common sense and the Markets sorta support my thought here.... IF your starting with a needy vehicle with a a lot of expense needed to bring it to 100%, then all bets are off and decisions need made. Thoughts? Opinions?

There are a few options in the "For Sale" section that I found interesting.. Take a look , Friends.

Here in N.C. they've dropped emission standard and testing .. They do have a Safety Inspection though. Calif has it bad... the Proposed Jay Leno Law failed and now ALL Cars must meet a form of emission standards. I don't know how far reaching that is, however. It was Jay Leno's point was, Collector Vehicles were not a threat due to their lack of general use (as MFG points out). Wouldn't it be interesting if He packed His bags and moved His Operation out of State?

If my funds were not tied up I would be a serious buyer..

Same Back

It's a beef.. You just showed me again.... twice in 3 paragraphs ..Thus You deserve no further response .

Bob.. So what is your beef with me? Assuming again? Yes I started a thread and it's went 6 pages ..Some ballistic and some reasonable.. You determine where You fit. (I have my opinion) The subject spans a myriad of experiences and methods...That was my intent is to not only see pricing for our vehicles but others experiences..

Agree, but many just want to rag on others for their methods.. Sometimes a stand seems to be proper.

Ron.. I started the thread to see how others approach buying and selling. I don't cut down others. What I do do is state my methods and thoughts... Take them or leave them... Seems like my methods hit a nerve in some and they get obstinate about things.. They can buy/sell/enjoy as they see fit. ..................... Nice barn full of vehicles..Bro-Man

Bob. You assume too much when it comes to my methods and motives. I haven't, and won't do that of You.. Who has animosity? Look back at your allegations and opinions. If You've lost on nearly every vehicle You've owned... You're a ''Typical American". We as Americans spend more on Vehicles than Housing... Sad part is Vehicles generally depreciate but Housing increases in value. So in general the largest expense used to be Housing but that has shifted over the decades.. Now it's vehicles. My background is as an Architect and Builder as well as a Designer of other items. I try my best to move forward financially... not sustain losses every time a New Model of vehicle comes out (pointing to New Car Byers here), How UnAmerican of Me. So... IF You are losing on most every vehicle, You might be a future seller, but in Your case I highly doubt it, Your wise enough to not sell less than market, so to me,, Your out.

Bob. I don't make moves to lose. I have had 67 vehicles in my life. I've lost on very few. The few I've lost on have given me a little wisdom.. There is a top to what I can put out and right now. I'm near that but why do You see it as a problem? The assets are in house and in time they move and get replaced... This year is a shift.\ Also when profit is no longer a factor... in my opinion, You lose touch with sensibility. It's an expensive game and every transaction is to be studied. I know this goes against the Hobbyists in general, So be it.... You might be a future seller... Beware.

MFG As. said in multiple ... this is a Hobby and Business at the same time. Every deal I've made on vehicles I meet the sellers expectations so there is never a hard feeling finishing the deals. No Stealing..IF that's the implication,... (In fact the '02' Avanti I gave the seller full asking price) The purchase numbers are real and the profits are already in place ''at time of purchase''. What I'm seeing is these values have escalated over the 2 years I've owned the 3 vehicles I listed (above). So I'm better than my 50% goal on the profit margin. You see, the upside is I get to own and drive these beauties without fear of financial losses. That, my Friend is Goal. #1... Goal #2 is I eventually move on and profit well. (Got the Porsche and a VW up ''for sale'' now to possibly cover the Avanti purchases and then all is well on my financial front.)