Guest dapy Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 I've learned a lot about engines and transmissions in my short old car dalliance...much of it here. Next lesson is to help understand what goes on at the rear end. How do the ratios affect how the car goes. Is the final drive all we need to know? Are there different numbers for manual and automatic transmissions? Why would one change what came from the factory? If this gets too scientific and no one else cares, I'll go elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdaddy Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) I'll try to answer this and keep it as short as possible. Question 1.) The lower the rear end gear, the quicker the engine will rev. Helps the low end performance, but hurts the top end performance. 2.& 3.) Most all final output drive for auto and manual trans. are 1-1, with the exception of OD. The trans gear ratios of 1st, 2nd, , etc. can be completely different from 1 trans to another. So your choice of rear gear ratios can get tricky. Rear gear ratio really depends on how the owner wants his car to react. I used to drag race every weekend and I would change the gears depending if I was racing 1/8 mi. (5.13 ratio) or 1/4 mi. (4.11) . Rear gear ratios effect everything, (fuel consumption, performance, drivability, engine life, etc.) Hope this helps. Edited April 5, 2014 by bigdaddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren55 Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 This might help to explain how they work. The ratios are determined by the size and number of teeth on the gears: http://www.drivingfast.net/technology/differentials.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dapy Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Now I understand that the "differential" keeps back wheels from spinning in a turn. That I get. The rest is a bit confusing. Depending on ratios through the gears (auto and manual) quicker pick up means higher revs in final drive (and poorer gas mileage)? Or slower pick up and less revs in final drive. And this can be changed somewhat depending on how my car will be used? OK, don't manufacturers try t optimize engine power and gearing to cover all driving. Do people mainly change "rear ends" in older cars? When I investigate (old) car sale should I ask about this? And how do I evaluate the answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasile Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 My 1969 Avanti with the 327 Corvette engine has a 3.54 ratio. It's great in the quarter mile; but not so nice at 65mph. I'm considering changing it to a 3.31 or 3.07. The ratio is stamped on a tag on the differential. Another tag tells you if it has Twin Traction or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaffeineRacer Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 One of the ways to think about it too is that your final drive ratio dictates the RPM at which the motor turns at a given speed. This has RPM:Speed ratio has particular importance when laid over a graph of your torque and HP curves. If your engine makes all it's torque at high RPMs it will bog down when you punch it from a cruising speed if you have a numerically low rear end ratio (e.g. 2.87) where as if it were high numerically (e.g. 4.46) then your engine Is likely crushing in it's powerband and will feel like it has a lot more get up and go when you punch it. There is a fine line that one walks when building a streetcar to gain desirable performance, driveability, and practical fuel economy (OD transmissions help a lot with this). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaffeineRacer Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Just to give the reverse example if you have a big powerful torque monster 383 with a numerically low gear ratio (e.g. 2.87) then when you punch it your wheels will pretty much just spin as opposed to a numerically higher ratio (e.g. 3.31) where you have a lot more controllable conversion of power from the crank to the wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaffeineRacer Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Also this video from a while back made by GM is great at explaining mechanically what is going on in a standard differential and how it works to accomplish the differential rate of rotation of the drive wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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