mfg Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 (edited) List six 'negatives'' for anyone who purchased a new Studebaker Avanti equipped with the three-speed manual transmission. (that is, instead of a four speed or Powershift equipped model) Edited September 3, 2018 by mfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1lark Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 T86 not as strong, could be breakage issue with 'spirited' driving Lower resale value versus a 4-speed or Powershift Hurst Competition shifters not available for the 3 speed Ratios in 3 speed would impact 1/4 mile time A 3 speed in an Avanti was just not cool.............didn't fit the performance image R2 not available if you wanted a 3-speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted September 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Nice going r1!......You got four of my original six negatives!.....( I did not have the "not cool" negative. (that's really a matter of opinion).....and Hurst indeed did make a quality shifter for the three speed...the Hurst 'syncro lock'! Can anyone come up with my other two 'negatives'?....One of them is actually the most important reason of all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1lark Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 Overdrive was not available on a T86 in an Avanti.........but I didn't include this since neither the T10 nor the Powershift had an overdrive gear, so it's really can't be considered a 'negative'. OK, how about this negative -- the 3 speed was a T86, not the significantly stronger T85. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted September 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, r1lark said: Overdrive was not available on a T86 in an Avanti.........but I didn't include this since neither the T10 nor the Powershift had an overdrive gear, so it's really can't be considered a 'negative'. OK, how about this negative -- the 3 speed was a T86, not the significantly stronger T85. I agree on your overdrive comment....and since the T-85 HD transmission wasn't an Avanti option, we can't consider it here. HINT!!.....Is it as easy to drive a three speed Studebaker Avanti as it is a four speed Studebaker Avanti? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studegary Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, mfg said: I agree on your overdrive comment....and since the T-85 HD transmission wasn't an Avanti option, we can't consider it here. HINT!!.....Is it as easy to drive a three speed Studebaker Avanti as it is a four speed Studebaker Avanti? It is if you know the shift patterns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackardV8 Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 Assume you're referring to the unsynchonized first gear. jack vines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1lark Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 8 hours ago, PackardV8 said: Assume you're referring to the unsynchonized first gear. jack vines Ah........didn't think about the unsynchronized first gear. Probably because I "grew up" on 3 speeds with unsynchronized first gears and am used to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted September 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 19 hours ago, PackardV8 said: Assume you're referring to the unsynchonized first gear. jack vines Yep!..That's it!....To me, the biggest advantage the T-10 has over the T-86 is a synchronized first gear......... ( #1 drawback of the T-86) The only other 'negative' I had concerning a Studebaker Avanti equipped with the three speed manual trans is that anyone who specified that transmission would probably have to 'special order' the car, making an already long delivery wait time even longer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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