murph the surf
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That could very well be where they got the idea,but there was definitely a motivation for Studebaker management to make the change..
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11 minutes ago, r1lark said:
The Bonneville records would be in jeopardy if the engine was not available to the public? I think this is pretty much what Avanti83 was saying.
I would think that was quite possible,r1,but that's not what got Studebaker motivated to make the R-3 option available directly from Studebaker.
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11 minutes ago, studegary said:
Was it tied in with the purchase of Paxton/McCullogh?
No,not tied in with that purchase,Gary.
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Never heard that before,Gunslinger,but that wasn't the principal reason management wanted to go rectangular.
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30 minutes ago, Avanti83 said:
Possibly that it's hard to call it a "stock or production" car if it's not available to the public.
You're real close,Avanti83-now,what actually happened that made Studebaker offer them to the public with the R-3 option?
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1 hour ago, r1lark said:
Ok, how about when the major US manufacturer decided to ignore the AMA racing ban and immediately introduced much higher horsepower engines, Studebaker (Egbert) decided they needed a higher horsepower "racing" engine too?
The higher horsepower R-3 was certainly needed for good "press" for the Avanti,but there was an event that occured that made Studebaker go ahead with offering the R-3's to the public.
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Quite possibly so,but that wasn't Studebaker's motivation for the change.
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That was a reason,but not the principal reason in Studebaker management's mind.
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One of the principal reasons for Studebaker's decision to go from the round headlight system to the rectangular system was........... ???
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The Bonneville runs gave them advertising "juice',and certainly made the Avanti known for it's high speed capability,but Studebaker was actually reluctant to actually offer them to the public,and didn't do so until something happened.
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Gary,my apologies,I did reword the question as I feel I did not make my question specific enough-and you are indeed correct that the R-3 definitely gave them the much needed horsepower prestige to have a good standing in the horsepower race.But there was a specific event that was the catalyst for Studebaker finally getting those R-3's to market.Care to give it another stab???
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What precipitated management at Studebaker to get the R-3 available to buyers that they had offered as a factory option on the Avanti,but were,in reality,reluctant to sell?
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Thought I'd share what I believe to be Avanti Owner's Association Newsletter number 1-it references the first meeting of the association,and the possible attendance of Mr. Egbert at that meeting.Wonder if he attended?????...The AOAI publication has come a LONG way!
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Sounds like I'm ordering tomorrow!..thank you all for your help-what a great group!!!
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1 hour ago, Gunslinger said:
I used to have a '67 Dodge Charger with a 4-speed. The boot had a chrome ring just barely oval and could have been mistaken for round. I found a reproduction ring to replace the original piece that was rusted...for all I know it could be identical to what your car had. If you can't find something that works through a speed shop or SI, you might look at vendors that serve the Mopar market or even Ford, GM or AMC. Trim pieces like those could have been more or less universal as a cost-cutting measure.
Thankss again,Gunslinger-pretty sure the part Regnalbob saw in his catalog may do the trick...Thanks!..Jim
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Thanks,Regnalbob-they described it on Friday as being oblong or rectangular-looks like it should do the trick-thanks!
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Hi 64-is your ring chrome?..If the rings were added late in production,perhaps mine was retrofitted at a later date.Thank you,64
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Thanks,Gunslinger-good idea about the speed shop.The one SI carries for the '64 is square/oblong,so a round will have to be sourced elsewhere.Just dawned on me that I should check the authenticity manual.
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Hi.my 63 R-1 is a factory 4 speed.On the console surrounding the boot,there are 4 screw holes that would fit the pattern of a round ring of some kind.Was there some sort of (perhaps chome) decorative ring that originally went around the boot?.I am replacing the boot,and SI said they only had a listing for a '64 model.Mine is serial number is 63R-1707,so it's a somewhat early production model.Does anyone have any ideas?..Thank you!...Jim
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Yes-I know the first of the three that were built had a Paxton supercharger,so as to to remain true to it's Studebaker Avanti heritage.
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False-pretty sure it's somewhat closer to wheel opening rather than a direct center.
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That is indeed correct,mfg!..The Novi cars were purchased for a purported $250,000 from Andy Granatelli,,which exceeded any company expenditure in excess of $200,000 that required Board of Directors approval.There has been some supposition that this purchase,done without Board approval,was the official reason for Mr. Egbert's departure.
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Sorry R1-purchasing Paxton is incorrect.
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In one of his last acts as President of Studebaker,Sherwood Egbert purchased ___ ____ ____ from ____ __________ for $250,000.
Studebaker Factory R-3 Availability
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Excellent thought,but that wasn't the catalyst for the offering..